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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:46 pm

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Hellspawn28 wrote:At least we are not as bad as the Godzilla fanbase. We never had people in their 30's and 40's fighting over Bandai figures :lol:. You have fans on the Facebook that act like that you are not a real collector if you don't buy all the expensive stuff and that the collectors who buy the cheaper stuff are just idiots who don't know what they are doing.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by ABED » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:50 pm

I once told them they were just monster films.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:52 pm

ABED wrote:I once told them they were just monster films.
Ouch... How did that go?
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by ABED » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:14 pm

It devolved into some ad hominem attacks, such as making fun of my taste in films. For instance, this gem, "says the guy that likes Mallrats and pro wrestling".
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:56 pm

I think Naruto and One Piece fans are worst. I remember one guy on the web claim that he was apart of the Church of Whitebeard.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by DynasticHunter » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:58 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think Naruto and One Piece fans are worst. I remember one guy on the web claim that he was apart of the Church of Whitebeard.
I don't see the problem here, thats just being a hardcore fan. Granted a little too hardcore but nothing harmful.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Son Edo » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:57 am

Not many people watch the original dub.

This place is pretty good.

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:03 am

Son Edo wrote:Not many people watch the original dub.

This place is pretty good.

JPN is not a dub. It's the original audio. Dub - Provide (a film or animation) with a soundtrack in a different language from the original.

Not to be a jackass or a smartass just for future events as people do complain like it's a big deal.

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Son Edo » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:17 am

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Son Edo wrote:Not many people watch the original dub.

This place is pretty good.

JPN is not a dub. It's the original audio. Dub - Provide (a film or animation) with a soundtrack in a different language from the original.

Not to be a jackass or a smartass just for future events as people do complain like it's a big deal.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Ringworm128 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:42 am

Actually the Japanese version is technically a dub since they dub over existing footage unlike western animation where the animation is matched up to the voice recordings.

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:55 am

ringworm128 wrote:Actually the Japanese version is technically a dub since they dub over existing footage unlike western animation where the animation is matched up to the voice recordings.
Provide (a film or animation) with a soundtrack in a different language from the original.

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by DBZ Mick » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:00 am

goku the krump dancer wrote:Is there anything ever, with a good fanbase? I mean even Jesus has his share of closed minded supporters..
Best answer, XD.

The thing that most annoys me is shipper wars. Good God...

The only time I've been annoyed with the Dragonball fanbase is the impulsive seemingly 16-year old Broly fanboys, uneducated dub fans, constant power-level and what is canon discussions etc.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by penguintruth » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:16 am

It's obvious why it's a bad fandom.

People dare to disagree with me. :wink:
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:36 am

penguintruth wrote:It's obvious why it's a bad fandom.

People dare to disagree with me. :wink:
Including a certain Mr. Sean Schemmel. :lol:
DBZ Mick wrote:constant power-level and what is canon discussions etc.
This was particularly bad when Battle of Gods was coming out. Not naming any names (I can't remember any, anyway), but the first few questions that Kei17 got after the first screening...really?

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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:16 am

penguintruth wrote:It's obvious why it's a bad fandom.

People dare to disagree with me. :wink:
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by ABED » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:58 am

The topics of discussion in fandom, no matter how trivial they seem, aren't what makes a particular fandom. What bothers me is when things become personal. I'll admit that I've been guilty of this on occassion, a fact I'm not proud, but I try not to.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by Dr. Machismo » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:50 pm

I don't think it's bad, but no offense to anyone here, I think a lot of fans can be a pain to debate with.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by mAcChaos » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:22 pm

I've seen my share of fanbases and DBZ's is pretty fine. Especially here.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by KingofWisdom » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:37 pm

Because some people unconditionally love the version of DBZ they grew up with (and fight everyone who disagree with them), in addition to it being a gateway anime. It shapes their entire outlook on anime and manga. So, you see fans who dismiss the Japanese version because it's so radically different than FUNimation's early offerings, but then they hate on modern dubs (like Naruto's) that are actually competent. It can also lead to them misunderstanding the DB series, since that dub is all they know. You'll also get fans of the Japanese version who look down on dub fans because of that preference. In general, it's a polarizing series that hasn't had the best treatment outside of Japan, so you have all these different types of fans. DBZ alone has aired in the US on Cartoon Network on and off for around ten years, so there are even people who don't really watch much anime who are fans. They pretty much look at it as an American cartoon, which is why you'll see confusion and outrage targeted at the Kai dub on occasion. Just by virtue of it being so popular, you see the worst of the fanbase more often than not. This is the only forum where I can communicate with Dragon Ball fans and not want to slam my head into the nearest wall.
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Re: Your explanation(s) on why the DB fanbase is bad

Post by DynasticHunter » Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:34 am

So I was recently browsing the tubes and was watching a video clip of Son Goku and his Friends Return and this got top comment "Why does Goku's voice suck so much dick in Japanese?" it got 49 thumbs up, I get that its their opinion but honestly did they have to be such an asshole about it? When I'm talking down on the dub, I try to not be a dick and respect the voice actors.
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