He pretty much refused to fight until Cell made him mad. If I re-call he even said He doesn't want to fight. Unless that's an anime thing only. Let me check my mangaI don't remember him ever saying that.
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Buu Saga wouldve been more suited for someone like Kishimoto or Kubo to write, plus it wouldve been better IMO no offense. I remember the intro of the Buu Saga in the anime, and well i kinda was expecting "PAIRINGS" ala Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail...
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Pretty much. Gohan was on the defensive the whole time and didn't bother to try hard.TheGmGoken wrote:He pretty much refused to fight until Cell made him mad. If I re-call he even said He doesn't want to fight. Unless that's an anime thing only. Let me check my mangaI don't remember him ever saying that.
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I never realized this, but the fact Supreme Kai failed to tell anyone about Buu's absorption ability is a major story flaw.
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He never told them about his regeneration either. He never had a chance to.
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He definitely had a chance to tell them about Buu's abilities on the Supreme Kai Planet. And even before that. When flying to Babidi's space. When in Babidi's spaceship. When at the tournament.mAcChaos wrote:He never told them about his regeneration either. He never had a chance to.
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He also fails to warn the others of Dabra's salvia turning people into stone until the demon actually takes a spit on two of them (Piccolo and Kuririn).
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My answer to this is "Toriyama probably didn't think of it."
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That still doesn't excuse the fact that it was a major story flaw. And there were definitely other ways to continue the story.ABED wrote:My answer to this is "Toriyama probably didn't think of it."
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I wasn't implying that it excuses the story flaw, simply pointing out that Kaioshin was made to look stupid because of Toriyama's fly by the seat of his pants writing.Dr. Machismo wrote:That still doesn't excuse the fact that it was a major story flaw. And there were definitely other ways to continue the story.ABED wrote:My answer to this is "Toriyama probably didn't think of it."
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I thought the Vegitto fight was the worst fight in the franchise; second to Gogeta vs Omega.. (which was oddly similar).Kid Buu wrote:Another problem I have with a lot of the fights in this arc too is that they are one-sided, so they lack tension. The Vegetto battle was a snooze outside of the candy gag.
Because of how much time I felt was wasted throughout it since he was introduced. I get that they needed to waste a bit of time to trick buu into absorbing him but, when was that ever conceived to be an option? Before it was considered the fight was nothing but staredowns and taunt exchanges featuring Buu at his most whiniest personality of them all. It was basically a rehash of the Semi-Cell vs Super Vegeta, exactly, the same. Terribly one sided, villain losing their mind being incompetently weaker and Vegeta screwing around with no hint of having any plan besides pleasing himself.
The problem I had with the Buu arc in general was Buu himself. He was just a brick wall villain who happened to be the strongest among the saga trio for no reason at all. He isnt any more intelligent than Cui and did nothing but regenerate and force the Z-senshi to start over from scratch time and time again.
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Yeah, but it's been well-established that Kaioshin is an idiot.ABED wrote:I wasn't implying that it excuses the story flaw, simply pointing out that Kaioshin was made to look stupid because of Toriyama's fly by the seat of his pants writing.Dr. Machismo wrote:That still doesn't excuse the fact that it was a major story flaw. And there were definitely other ways to continue the story.ABED wrote:My answer to this is "Toriyama probably didn't think of it."
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
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