Why is SSJ God so powerful?

[TheMightyOzaru]

If you take the time to analyze a situation, it's not lazy. It can be viewed as an excuse, sure, but it's not a lazy one.

Maybe he took time and made a lazy excuse. I mean you're aren't giving me something. Taking time doesn't mean it's not lazy.

Laziness is a lack of effort. All RG96 did was say just cuz. There is no effort or time put into that thought process.

[dbzfan7]

If you take the time to analyze a situation, it's not lazy. It can be viewed as an excuse, sure, but it's not a lazy one.

Maybe he took time and made a lazy excuse. I mean you're aren't giving me something. Taking time doesn't mean it's not lazy.

Laziness is a lack of effort. All RG96 did was say just cuz. There is no effort or time put into that thought process.

He didn't say just cause. He gave a logical reason through patterns we have seen throughout Dragon Ball. Makes more sense then a baseless math equation.

[TheGmGoken]

If you take the time to analyze a situation, it's not lazy. It can be viewed as an excuse, sure, but it's not a lazy one.

Maybe he took time and made a lazy excuse. I mean you're aren't giving me something. Taking time doesn't mean it's not lazy.

Laziness is a lack of effort. All RG96 did was say just cuz. There is no effort or time put into that thought process.

Opinion.

[TheMightyOzaru]

He didn't say just cause. He gave a logical reason through patterns we have seen throughout Dragon Ball. Makes more sense then a baseless math equation.

He's just stating that SSJ God is this strong because previous attempts at giving Goku energy made him super strong. It doesn't go into detail as to WHY this happens. My math equation was just based on Zephyr's opinion, which I thought made sense. Seriously, I'm just trying to make sense of this stuff.

[TheGmGoken]

He didn't say just cause. He gave a logical reason through patterns we have seen throughout Dragon Ball. Makes more sense then a baseless math equation.

He's just stating that SSJ God is this strong because previous attempts at giving Goku energy made him super strong. It doesn't go into detail as to WHY this happens. My math equation was just based on Zephyr's opinion, which I thought made sense. Seriously, I'm just trying to make sense of this stuff.

This is DBZ. No offence to your theory and all. But DBZ wasn't complex in terms of explanation for a reason. In a nutshell Goku got energy and got big power. Nothing new really.

[TheMightyOzaru]

He didn't say just cause. He gave a logical reason through patterns we have seen throughout Dragon Ball. Makes more sense then a baseless math equation.

He's just stating that SSJ God is this strong because previous attempts at giving Goku energy made him super strong. It doesn't go into detail as to WHY this happens. My math equation was just based on Zephyr's opinion, which I thought made sense. Seriously, I'm just trying to make sense of this stuff.

This is DBZ. No offence to your theory and all. But DBZ wasn't complex in terms of explanation for a reason. In a nutshell Goku got energy and got big power. Nothing new really.

I'm weird. I'm basically the opposite of a critic. I try to make sense of the flaws within something. Yeah, it is nothing new, but the question is why? Why do they get super strong? You could say Toei bull shit, but I look for a better answer. I've made sense of many things that are often considered bull shit. Hell, I'd say I've made sense of f***ing Midichlorians.

[TheGmGoken]

Why do they get super strong? You could say Toei bull shit, but I look for a better answer. I've made sense of many things that are often considered bull shit. Hell, I'd say I made sense of f***ing Midichlorians.

You do realize that Toei wasn't the only one who worked in the movie. Made sense if you want it to. But we will never know the real answer. Why do they become super strong. Kinda obvious to be honest.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Why do they get super strong? You could say Toei bull shit, but I look for a better answer. I've made sense of many things that are often considered bull shit. Hell, I'd say I made sense of f***ing Midichlorians.

You do realize that Toei wasn't the only one who worked in the movie. Made sense if you want it to. But we will never know the real answer. Why do they become super strong. Kinda obvious to be honest.

Oh? Wanna explain why Goku got super strong against Broly? I don't think there's an obvious answer to that. I have my own opinion, but there's no obvious answer.

[TheGmGoken]

Oh? Wanna explain why Goku got super strong against Broly? I don't think there's an obvious answer to that. I have my own opinion, but there's no obvious answer.

Obvious. Everyone gave him energy. BIG POWER. Simple.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Oh? Wanna explain why Goku got super strong against Broly? I don't think there's an obvious answer to that. I have my own opinion, but there's no obvious answer.

Obvious. Everyone gave him energy. BIG POWER. Simple.

That doesn't explain why he gets BIG POWER.

[dbzfan7]

He didn't say just cause. He gave a logical reason through patterns we have seen throughout Dragon Ball. Makes more sense then a baseless math equation.

He's just stating that SSJ God is this strong because previous attempts at giving Goku energy made him super strong. It doesn't go into detail as to WHY this happens. My math equation was just based on Zephyr's opinion, which I thought made sense. Seriously, I'm just trying to make sense of this stuff.

That's because there is no reason. DBZ has never been based on simple math equations for everything. All we know is Goku got stronger because he had friends who helped him get stronger. That's it. Random is just pointing out this has been done before. There is no WHY exactly. It happens because it happens. Goku gets stronger because he needs to. They jave his friends give him ki and poof we got a stronger Goku.

[TheGmGoken]

That doesn't explain why he gets BIG POWER.

It does. The others gave him energy which increased his energy. Not that hard.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

That doesn't explain why he gets BIG POWER.

It does. The others gave him energy which increased his energy. Not that hard.

Their energy was put towards his base form and then increased by the Super Saiyan multiplier, instead of just being added to his total power, works just fine for me.

[TheMightyOzaru]

He didn't say just cause. He gave a logical reason through patterns we have seen throughout Dragon Ball. Makes more sense then a baseless math equation.

He's just stating that SSJ God is this strong because previous attempts at giving Goku energy made him super strong. It doesn't go into detail as to WHY this happens. My math equation was just based on Zephyr's opinion, which I thought made sense. Seriously, I'm just trying to make sense of this stuff.

That's because there is no reason.

I don't accept that answer. Toei may have not given any thought to it, but I want to make sense of something they didn't give much thought to. I could argue there are no power levels past the Freeza arc yet you, TheGmGoken and RandomGuy96 take it upon yourselves to try and guess what they COULD BE. What I'm doing here is no different. I'm arguing what the reason behind that burst in power COULD BE.

That doesn't explain why he gets BIG POWER.

It does. The others gave him energy which increased his energy. Not that hard.

That doesn't explain why it went up so much .

[dbzfan7]

I don't accept that answer. Toei may have not given any thought to it, but I want to make sense of something they didn't give much thought to. I could argue there are no power levels past the Freeza arc yet you, GmMoken and RandomGuy96 take it upon yourselves to try and guess what they COULD BE. What I'm doing here is no different. I'm arguing what the reason behind that burst in power COULD BE.

There is nothing to go on at all. With power levels we can estimate as we have hints on placements we can do. With this we have nothing to go on. There is no math to go into this as of now. All we have is Goku became ridiculously powerful to match 70% Birus. That's it. No multipliers, no nothing. We need a choezenshuu entry or some kind of hint. Just like the SSJ4 multiplier which has nothing going for it, we have nothing.

[TheGmGoken]

That doesn't explain why it went up so much .

Sure it does. SSJ(Already 50x) plus the energy given + Goku MCD = BIG POWER

[TheMightyOzaru]

That doesn't explain why it went up so much .

Sure it does. SSJ(Already 50x) plus the energy given + Goku MCD = BIG POWER

MCD? The natural assumption would be SSJ Goku + the energy of all the others, whom have been severely injured. That's not a substantial boost.

[TheGmGoken]

That doesn't explain why it went up so much .

Sure it does. SSJ(Already 50x) plus the energy given + Goku MCD = BIG POWER

MCD? The natural assumption would be SSJ Goku + the energy of all the others, whom have been severely injured. That's not a substantial boost.

Main Character Disease. Sure it does. They all are in the millions. Simple addition of power should make them GODS!

[TheMightyOzaru]

I don't accept that answer. Toei may have not given any thought to it, but I want to make sense of something they didn't give much thought to. I could argue there are no power levels past the Freeza arc yet you, GmMoken and RandomGuy96 take it upon yourselves to try and guess what they COULD BE. What I'm doing here is no different. I'm arguing what the reason behind that burst in power COULD BE.

There is nothing to go on at all. With power levels we can estimate as we have hints on placements we can do. With this we have nothing to go on. There is no math to go into this as of now. All we have is Goku became ridiculously powerful to match 70% Birus. That's it. No multipliers, no nothing. We need a choezenshuu entry or some kind of hint. Just like the SSJ4 multiplier which has nothing going for it, we have nothing.

Power levels are still assumptions. When making power levels, aren't you gonna have to assume what Goku's power level was when he fought Broly, or when he did turn into a SSJ God? This math equation is merely an attempt at making sense of something that wasn't delved into, much like how fan opinions on power levels, again, try to make sense of what wasn't delved into. If you're trying to say there's no point in trying to make sense of something Toei didn't bother to think about, you might as well stop making power level lists because they're ultimately pointless.

[dbzfan7]

I don't accept that answer. Toei may have not given any thought to it, but I want to make sense of something they didn't give much thought to. I could argue there are no power levels past the Freeza arc yet you, GmMoken and RandomGuy96 take it upon yourselves to try and guess what they COULD BE. What I'm doing here is no different. I'm arguing what the reason behind that burst in power COULD BE.

There is nothing to go on at all. With power levels we can estimate as we have hints on placements we can do. With this we have nothing to go on. There is no math to go into this as of now. All we have is Goku became ridiculously powerful to match 70% Birus. That's it. No multipliers, no nothing. We need a choezenshuu entry or some kind of hint. Just like the SSJ4 multiplier which has nothing going for it, we have nothing.

Power levels are still assumptions. When making power levels, aren't you gonna have to assume what Goku's power level was when he fought Broly, or when he did turn into a SSJ God? This math equation is merely an attempt at making sense of something that wasn't delved into, much like how fan opinions on power levels, again, try to make sense of what wasn't delved into. If you're trying to say there's no point in trying to make sense of something Toei didn't bother to think about, you might as well stop making power level lists because they're ultimately pointless.

The difference is we have been given a basis to go on. Goku isn't stronger than Freeza in base (so we know he can't be above 120,000,000). We know the SSJ multipliers so we can predict how stronge people will become after each transformation. We have character statements and gaps to to use for other placements. We have evidence and ways of supporting our numbers and gaps. For SSJ GOD, we have only one thing.

Okay the only thing we got is the statement that Goku said he never felt a power like this could exist.