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Re: Hero Goku

Post by Vegeta12 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:37 pm

Bunch of other fighters why does goku only learn this skill set
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:44 pm

Vegeta12 wrote:Bunch of other fighters why does goku only learn this skill set
Cause the other fighter wasn't a dedicated like Goku was.
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:46 pm

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Vegeta12 wrote:Bunch of other fighters why does goku only learn this skill set
Cause the other fighter wasn't a dedicated like Goku was.
Goku also had the best training methods as well.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by Vegeta12 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:51 pm

Master Roshi or King Kai?
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:01 pm

Vegeta12 wrote:Master Roshi or King Kai?
Both. Plus Goku knew when to stop and start training.
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by Vegeta12 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:06 pm

Didn't master roshi and King kai teach krillin?
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:10 pm

Vegeta12 wrote:Didn't master roshi and King kai teach krillin?
Roshi did not King Kai.
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by Vegeta12 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:19 pm

Ok so does birth power level and age affect a person's strength?
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:31 pm

Goku was born with a power level of 2. I don't think birth has anything to do with it.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:37 pm

Vegeta12 wrote:Ok so does birth power level and age affect a person's strength?
Goku was born with 2. Vegeta was born with a higher Power level. Yet Goku > Vegeta. Birth got NOTHING to do it
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by Vegeta12 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:41 pm

So birth power level and age don't even matter?
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:46 pm

Vegeta12 wrote:So birth power level and age don't even matter?
No.
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by Axiom » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:29 am

I don't want Goku to change, I like him the way that he is. He doesn't need some overwritten JRPG/Stupid anime that the main character existential crisis that completely changes his character. IF you want DBZ to be another anime, watch another anime - we like Goku because he is the archetypal hero. He's the most honest, fair and the strongest character in the show - he is what all other characters strive to be, and I like that.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:15 am

Because while not particularly bright, he had a heart of gold which made him insanely likable.
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:18 am

Axiom wrote:I don't want Goku to change, I like him the way that he is. He doesn't need some overwritten JRPG/Stupid anime that the main character existential crisis that completely changes his character. IF you want DBZ to be another anime, watch another anime - we like Goku because he is the archetypal hero. He's the most honest, fair and the strongest character in the show - he is what all other characters strive to be, and I like that.

For once I agree with you lol. Goku is one of the few anime MAIN characters who didn't have a over use backstory of being bullied, abused, isolated, or a loved one died. Goku was always a fighter and didn't change MUCH. If this was a different anime Goku would have been abused by Gohan, bullied by others, isolated by the people so he lived in the words, or someone he cared about died. Nope. Not Goku. Goku was a cheerful fella.
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by Vegeta12 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:31 am

Too cheerful they need more logic know one is so happy go lucky.
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:39 am

Vegeta12 wrote:Too cheerful they need more logic know one is so happy go lucky.
Have you met everyone is the world? I think not. There are many people who are even MORE happy go lucky than Goku. Tyniesha Day is always happy(Unless she's on her...cycle. Which should't count.) even more so than Goku.

What's you deal? Seems like you're bashing Goku for not being a family man.
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:40 am

Vegeta12 wrote:Too cheerful they need more logic know one is so happy go lucky.
Why? Goku's happy go lucky personality is what we love about him. He gets his tail cut off and after a short panic moment he just says whatever like losing it isn't that big a deal.
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by Vegeta12 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:52 am

Because goku gets everything first I know he is the main character but come on. Some cartoons out there give all there hero's helpful and important jobs. But not Goku just give him all the transformation's and special training.
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Re: Hero Goku

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:59 am

Vegeta12 wrote:Because goku gets everything first I know he is the main character but come on. Some cartoons out there give all there hero's helpful and important jobs. But not Goku just give him all the transformation's and special training.
Goku got everything? Goku got all the special training?

Goku didn't get Mystic or the Ritual(Special training)
Goku didn't get to fuse.
Goku didn't become Kami(His choice) meaning the job was kept to The unnamed Namek

Goku only got special training cause he was DEDICATED. Yamcha and Krillin both said they wasn't going to train as HARD as Goku because they could't keep up. Hell by the end of Cell Arc. Everyone stopped training. Goku is a dedicated fighter. He was handed NOTHING. He has busted his ass for EVERYTHING he got. All the blood,sweat, and even tears. Yes he might get favoritism cause he's the main character. But damn Goku deserves everything he got. What so Goku ain't suppose to get stronger now? Goku never got all the transformations. When he got SSJ by the next arc there was SSJ all over the place. Gohan had SSJ2. Gotenks had SSJ3. You know what? Goku worked for EVERYTHING he had. Nothing came easy to him. He worked in 300G. He worked with weights. He worked with old school, new school, and even mixture styles. Not to sound like a Goku fanboy(As I'm a Goten fanboy) but he's the best. When giving speeches, fighting , and even at LOVING. No one can touch. An..and no matter how much he proves it. He get bashed because he the main character or he's not father of the year.
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