The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:24 am

Now heres a VS thats for comedic purposes if anything.

Veku VS Fat Gotenks.
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Post by hleV » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:33 am

↑ Gogeta > Gotenks, thus Veku > Fat Gotenks.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:26 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Now heres a VS thats for comedic purposes if anything.

Veku VS Fat Gotenks.
Veku showed much more energy(Gag) and power than Gotenks. Veku held his own against fucking Janemba :lol: .
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:56 pm

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:35 pm

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KentalSSJ6 wrote:Now heres a VS thats for comedic purposes if anything.

Veku VS Fat Gotenks.
Veku showed much more energy(Gag) and power than Gotenks. Veku held his own against fucking Janemba :lol: .
Not to mention he can actually move.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:06 pm

Tiencha VS whoever is closest to him.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:18 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Tiencha VS whoever is closest to him.
Closest to Tienchan would be Captain Ginyu.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:16 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Tiencha Yamhan VS whoever is closest to him.
From which arc are Yamcha & Tenshinhan?
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:05 pm

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KentalSSJ6 wrote:Tiencha Yamhan VS whoever is closest to him.
From which arc are Yamcha & Tenshinhan?
For the sake of giving them a fighting chance, Buu saga incarnations.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:33 pm

Tien - 3.2 million
Yamcha - 1.8 million

My fusion formula: B x 13

Tencha- 23,400,000

Best match: base CG Trunks. 26,000,000. Second best: base CG Vegeta: 28,000,000.

Tencha wins in both cases, but he'll have to use the Kikoho to beat Vegeta.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:35 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Tenshinhan - 3.2 million
Yamcha - 1.8 million

My fusion formula: B x 13

Tencha- 23,400,000

Best match: base CG Trunks. 26,000,000. Second best: base CG Vegeta: 28,000,000.

Tencha wins in both cases, but he'll have to use the Kikoho to beat Vegeta.
Can't they just transform.....well they can't cause it's against the rules. But wha's the fusion time limit again?
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:38 pm

Can't they just transform.....well they can't cause it's against the rules. But wha's the fusion time limit again?
30 minutes. And no, the saiyans can't transform; that's why I specified BASE CG Vegeta and Trunks.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:39 pm

Since Fusion is stated to make the users dozens of times stronger, and I have Tenshinhan & Yamcha in the early millions, then I guess Yamhan would be able to beat the Super Saiyans pre-RoSaT.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:40 pm

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Can't they just transform.....well they can't cause it's against the rules. But wha's the fusion time limit again?
30 minutes. And no, the saiyans can't transform; that's why I specified BASE CG Vegeta and Trunks.
I said it was against the rules lol. 30 minutes huh. That should be enough time for them to win. Loophole. They mess up the fusion.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:47 am

I'd say Freeza arc Piccolo would be a good match for Teincha since Yamcha kinda holds the fusion back.
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Post by Mjb1985 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:23 pm

How strong do you have Piccolo? I generally place him at 300k before his fusion with Nail.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:30 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:How strong do you have Piccolo? I generally place him at 300k before his fusion with Nail.
Seems too high. Nail said a fusion would make Piccolo many times greater. I would say he is closer to Nails level as most Namekians weren't that powerful.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:38 pm

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Mjb1985 wrote:How strong do you have Piccolo? I generally place him at 300k before his fusion with Nail.
Seems too high. Nail said a fusion would make Piccolo many times greater. I would say he is closer to Nails level as most Namekians weren't that powerful.
I just put him at 35 thousand. A nice, even 10x stronger than Saiyan Arc Piccolo, and still high enough to impress Nail.
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Post by Mjb1985 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:16 pm

He's at least stronger than Gohan and Kuririn. He senses Freeza's ki and says he is going to go save Gohan and Kuririn. I don't know how that would be possible if he's only 35,000 or so.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:26 pm

Super Vegetto (with SSGod's realm absorbed) vs Whis, Beers, SS4 Gogeta, and Super Yi Xing Long
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