Maybe Gero collected information was Birsudbzfan7 wrote:I think they're uninhabited. Also SSJ God having the power to absorb ki would be an interesting ability to go further into.TheGmGoken wrote:Sad part is. No one gave a damn.dbzfan7 wrote: He just flew right through them and they all got destroyed. That's insane.
. Anyone realize Goku used Instant Kamehameha in this movie. Surprise no one said anything.Well he didn't charge and then teleport, he teleported and then charged the attack once Birus lost sight of him.TheGmGoken wrote: Maybe Gero collected information was Birsu
I agree with you 100%.Castor Troy wrote:Just finished watching it and here's my honest opinion.
It was amusing, but really suffered from poor pacing. I felt like it dragged a bit too much.
I felt that 90% of the movie was Bills and Whis eating stuff. It was like a Toriko movie with the DBZ cast in it.
The humor was a bit overdone just for the sake of having humor in it. While Vegeta's dancing was funny, it felt pretty out of character for him. The Pilaf gang really didn't add anything to the movie.
The action was too spread out and too far in between. The BGM (and especially the absence of it) was also pretty lacking to capture the tension in most of the fight with Bills and Goku. Although Flow's "Hero" played during the fight was pretty awesome.
I really didn't enjoy the massive overuse of the CGI backgrounds too. I felt like I was back in 1995 again playing a terrible PC movie that tries to be a game.
I really, really, really wanted to enjoy this movie much more than I did, but I felt that it lacked the impact of the Jump Special and what made the past DBZ movies enjoyable.
Stil the same thing in my book.dbzfan7 wrote:Well he didn't charge and then teleport, he teleported and then charged the attack once Birus lost sight of him.TheGmGoken wrote: Maybe Gero collected information was Birsu
It kinda is and it kinda isn't.TheGmGoken wrote:Stil the same thing in my book.dbzfan7 wrote:Well he didn't charge and then teleport, he teleported and then charged the attack once Birus lost sight of him.TheGmGoken wrote: Maybe Gero collected information was Birsu
It is the same thing. And that's the bottom line because the GmGoken said so. But he did teleport and use kamehameha. Or in Nozawa's case.dbzfan7 wrote: It kinda is and it kinda isn't.
I got Mr. Satan on my side so it's notTheGmGoken wrote:It is the same thing. And that's the bottom line because the GmGoken said so. But he did teleport and use kamehameha. Or in Nozawa's case.dbzfan7 wrote: It kinda is and it kinda isn't.
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YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I miss Nozawa in her prime. I could only imagine her battle cry in this movie
To be fair. Akira Toriyama did have to change some things and made it as if it was apart of the manga serialization. So who knows what Toei had in mind. Also this movie had more time to flesh things out. Look at Broly's first movie. Compare it to other movies. It got a PLOT. The other movies were just meant to be the "ARC" in a nutshell and was made for the fightingmAcChaos wrote:The pacing is what I liked about this movie.
Why? Well, in other movies, there is no setup. Five minutes into the movie, some androids randomly burst onto the scene and they start fighting and that's it. For me all the previous DBZ movies were boring throwaways. I never watched half of them.
This one actually felt like a few real episodes, taking the time to flesh out the situation.
Make a corny joke like that again and I'll KAMEHAME YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH your ass.GS7X7 wrote:I loved the movie! Could have used some epic fighting but had plenty of humor, story and warmth to complement it! I gotta give it 6 of 7 Dragon Balls!
It's not that she's bad. Which she's isn't. I find it funny how she does the kamehameha now.dbzfan7 wrote:
I got Mr. Satan on my side so it's not
Nozawa I thought did a pretty good job. Not the best, but still pretty good.
Vegeta admits that before he got a rage boost he didn't seem to think he had. Furthermore, while Vegeta may acknowledge Kakarot's superiority in the moment, that in no way makes Vegeta incapable of surpassing him. Vegeta started out stronger and even surpasses him multiple times in the series. He can do it again.penguintruth wrote:The whole damn point of the "YOU ARE NUMBAA WAN" speech in the Buu arc was Vegeta acknowledging that Goku is just plain better, and he's learned to live with it. If Vegeta is suddenly stronger than Goku, why even HAVE higher forms of Super Saiyan? Sorry, but Vegeta just isn't nearly as powerful as Goku. SSJ3 is higher than SSJ. End of story.
This is why the new manga ending was bullshit. "I'll beat you some day!" No, no you won't. That was the entire point of just a few chapters ago, that you knew you couldn't.
Lol, what makes Vegeta incapable of attaining SSJ3penguintruth wrote:If at the moment Vegeta was more powerful than Goku, he should have transformed into SSJ3, at least.
Which would have also been bullcrap. Vegeta can't surpass Goku if he can't even go SSJ3, and he shouldn't be able to do so.
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Vegeta WAS stronger for a moment. This much is the true. At this point you just sound like a Goku fanboy that can't accept the fact that Vegeta got stronger than Goku for a few seconds. It's not a big deal. Goku would still stomp his ass because Vegeta needs a motivator to get that powerful for just a few seconds.penguintruth wrote:And knowing the average troglodyte DBZ fan, "Vegeta is officially more powerful than Goku now!" will ring out from every corner of the fandom and I will die a little more inside from having heard it.
Anime Vegeta always changes height. Vegeta was one time the same height as Goku. Puberty did Vegeta bad. No wonder he can't become stronger than Goku. His body is to focus on reforming his bones to be tall or shortdbzfan7 wrote:I noticed Vegeta was taller than Bulma in the movie. In the JSAT special Bulma was taller.
TheGmGoken wrote:To be fair. Akira Toriyama did have to change some things and made it as if it was apart of the manga serialization. So who knows what Toei had in mind. Also this movie had more time to flesh things out. Look at Broly's first movie. Compare it to other movies. It got a PLOT. The other movies were just meant to be the "ARC" in a nutshell and was made for the fightingmAcChaos wrote:The pacing is what I liked about this movie.
Why? Well, in other movies, there is no setup. Five minutes into the movie, some androids randomly burst onto the scene and they start fighting and that's it. For me all the previous DBZ movies were boring throwaways. I never watched half of them.
This one actually felt like a few real episodes, taking the time to flesh out the situation.
Make a corny joke like that again and I'll KAMEHAME YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH your ass.GS7X7 wrote:I loved the movie! Could have used some epic fighting but had plenty of humor, story and warmth to complement it! I gotta give it 6 of 7 Dragon Balls!
It's not that she's bad. Which she's isn't. I find it funny how she does the kamehameha now.dbzfan7 wrote:
I got Mr. Satan on my side so it's not
Nozawa I thought did a pretty good job. Not the best, but still pretty good.
The old days: KA ME HA ME HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Now: Ka me ha me YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I honestly love the YAHHHHHH! part. But I like the way she did it in the past better
Since they were screened with other films, the original DBZ movies didn't always have a lot of time to work with. You can't exactly do a lot of fleshing out in 40 minutes. Some of the longer movies did make a bit more of an effort in establishing a setup, most notably DBZ movies 8 and 13.mAcChaos wrote:The pacing is what I liked about this movie.
Why? Well, in other movies, there is no setup. Five minutes into the movie, some androids randomly burst onto the scene and they start fighting and that's it.
How can you say all of the movies were boring throwaways if you've only seen half of them?mAcChaos wrote:For me all the previous DBZ movies were boring throwaways. I never watched half of them.
You know, I'm not sure how I feel about Toriyama's idea of trying to write this film as if he'd continued serialization. On one hand, it helps maintain that Dragon Ball flavour and it makes the film really feel like a part of the existing Dragon Ball universe, but on the other hand you want something a bit more grander, epic; something that can only be done on the big screen. But I guess DBZ is already a series that is suitably epic for the big screen and it doesn't need the sort of "scaling up" that a show like The Simpsons needed when it had its theatrical outing.mAcChaos wrote:This one actually felt like a few real episodes, taking the time to flesh out the situation.
[über-nitpick]Well to me it sounds more like "KA ME HA ME HUWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"[/über-nitpick]TheGmGoken wrote:The old days: KA ME HA ME HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Now: Ka me ha me YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
