Black Star Wish

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Black Star Wish

Post by aarondirebear » Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:44 pm

I finally figured out what was bothering me about Emperor Pilaf's wish, apart from the usual plot hole complaints:
"I wish you were a little kid again"...
When a literal genie takes what you say after "I wish", don't they usually use your exact words, and act as if you were talking to them even when you are talking to someone else?
Therefore, shouldn't the dragon have interpreted "you" to mean himself?
You can't argue that the dragon was smart enough to understand that "you" meant Goku, because he obviously took everything that was being said as a literal wish and wasn't smart enough to make the distinction between an intentional wish and an exasperated lament. If the dragon was able to discern the intended recipient of "I wish you were a little kid again", then he should have realized that he wasn't intentionally making a wish.
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Re: Black Star Wish

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:05 pm

None of the the dragon do the literal wishes or the Monkey's Paw ones that fuck you over like other genies in works of fiction often do. They understand what you want without worrying too much how you phrase the wish, Ultimate Shenlong is just a jackass and didn't care that Pilaf's wish wasn't an intentional one. He just wanted to go back home.
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Re: Black Star Wish

Post by Herms » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:46 pm

Isn't Pilaf's wish worded something like "I wish Goku were little again like when I first met him" in Japanese, rather than "I wish you were a kid"?
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Re: Black Star Wish

Post by aarondirebear » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:39 pm

Herms wrote:Isn't Pilaf's wish worded something like "I wish Goku were little again like when I first met him" in Japanese, rather than "I wish you were a kid"?
Not sure; but that would certainly explain it.
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