The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:14 pm

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RandomGuy96 wrote:16 wins by a slim margin. The Daizenshuu called him Gero's strongest non-Cell creation.
Just looked up the entry and your right. 16 is stated as the strongest Android besides Cell.
Which Daizenshuu entry is it? Some Daizenshuu don't take into account the anime.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:18 pm

Hmm, Perhaps C-16 is superior.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by MDSTSSJ » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:21 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:16 vs Super 13

17 & 18 vs Super 13
Super 13 is a combination of 3 powerful cyborgs and 16 is one damn powerful cyborg. I think Super 13 kick 16 ass.

I see Super 13 at Imperfect Cell level ( that imperfect who fought against 17 ). Super 13 breaks those brothers.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:25 pm

MDSTSSJ wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:16 vs Super 13

17 & 18 vs Super 13
Super 13 is a combination of 3 powerful cyborgs and 16 is one damn powerful cyborg. I think Super 13 kick 16 ass.

I see Super 13 at Imperfect Cell level ( that imperfect who fought against 17 ). Super 13 breaks those brothers.
You have Super 13 at Imperfect Cell. Yet 16>= IP Cell. So..? How would 13 super kick 16 arse?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:29 pm

The Daizenshuu 7 says 16 is the strongest Artificial Human so he beats out Super 13. By how much you can decide.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:30 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:The Daizenshuu 7 says 16 is the strongest Artificial Human so he beats out Super 13. By how much you can decide.
I currently have the 2 here now:
C-16: 500,000,000
Super C-13: 475,000,000
I don't think 16 takes this easily, but he does take it.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:31 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:The Daizenshuu 7 says 16 is the strongest Artificial Human so he beats out Super 13. By how much you can decide.
I currently have the 2 here now:
C-16: 500,000,000
Super C-13: 475,000,000
I don't think 16 takes this easily, but he does take it.
They never said 16 was way stronger, just the strongest. So that should work.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by MDSTSSJ » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:40 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
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dbzfan7 wrote:16 vs Super 13

17 & 18 vs Super 13
Super 13 is a combination of 3 powerful cyborgs and 16 is one damn powerful cyborg. I think Super 13 kick 16 ass.

I see Super 13 at Imperfect Cell level ( that imperfect who fought against 17 ). Super 13 breaks those brothers.
You have Super 13 at Imperfect Cell. Yet 16>= IP Cell. So..? How would 13 super kick 16 arse?
You are right Goken!! Is a close fight between them!!
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:45 pm

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You are right Goken!! Is a match fight between them!!
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:03 am

Muten Roshi vs Crane Hermit vs Tao Pai Pai (Equal power levels)

No max power
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Post by rereboy » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:57 am

I find it a bit silly to have characters at absolutely the same level of power. Might as well ask which of those three has the most skill, resistance and experience, because that's what will determine the winner every single time in those circumstances.

As such, I would say that Tao Pai Pai would win. He survived a grenade that should have killed him so he's pretty tough, and as a professional hitman, his skills in combat and at killing are razor sharp and he doesn't lack experience.

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Post by Rocketman » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:06 pm

Roshi gets overwhelmed by the Crane brothers. After that, Crane Hermit takes to the sky out of Tao's reach and kills him with the Kikoho.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by goku the krump dancer » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:01 pm

I dont think max power is a form Roshi can fight in anyway. Aside from shooting a slowly charged Kamehameha, to me it looks like he can barely move.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:04 pm

rereboy wrote:I find it a bit silly to have characters at absolutely the same level of power. Might as well ask which of those three has the most skill, resistance and experience, because that's what will determine the winner every single time in those circumstances.
That's the point. We do this in case someone has a major advantage.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by rereboy » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:39 pm

Rocketman wrote: After that, Crane Hermit takes to the sky out of Tao's reach and kills him with the Kikoho.
Its true that we never saw him flying, but its highly doubtful that he wouldn't know how to use that signature technique from the Crane School.

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Post by Cursed Lemon » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:49 am

Cell vs. lazy adult SSJ2 Gohan?
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:46 pm

Super Perfect? Cell stomps.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:02 pm

Perfect: goes exactly like Gohan vs Dabra

Super Perfect: goes even worse than Gohan vs Broly
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:55 pm

With Super Saiyan 2, Gohan can still beat regular full-power Perfect Cell. But "Super Perfect" Cell now has a clear power edge, and turns the tables.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:40 pm

Kaboom wrote:With Super Saiyan 2, Gohan can still beat regular full-power Perfect Cell. But "Super Perfect" Cell now has a clear power edge, and turns the tables.
Pretty much what you said.
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