Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:26 pm

We state that its on purpose because it actually matters... It means that he could have used a more pleasant style in those panels but chose not to because he probably felt it would be funnier this way. Its fine to not like it but to point out that its bad art when its actually meant to look very silly instead of good doesn't seem to make much sense.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Fionordequester » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:44 pm

It's not needed though, and doesn't serve a purpose. I mean really, you don't see stuff like Tom and Jerry doing that, do you?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:37 pm

I really hope the fight isn't too short. This looks like it could be really funny.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Fionordequester » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:08 am

One thing though, since someone didn't like the nitpicking from way back...and I can kinda sort of understand now...but anyways, I do agree that the rest of the complaints are sort of nitpicking.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:26 pm

rereboy wrote:It means that he could have used a more pleasant style in those panels
lol, nice one.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Godo » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:31 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:I'm going to have to agree here: Just because it's "silly" doesn't mean it doesn't look -bad-. You can do goofy, silly, weird, kooky, and funny while still being well drawn. This artist does not seem to be able to do this, mostly because the artist isn't really all that good. All of their art for the characters uses references from the manga and show, so when they have to draw something more original and goofy, they have nothing to work with. As such, it looks dramatically lower in quality.

Something else you'll notice is that the artist rarely ever incorporates dynamic angles. It's usually static shots from the front, back, side, etc. The framing is boring and it's all so... boring.
Marco Polo wrote: People keep saying that as if it were a good excuse. Newsflash: on purpose or not, crappy art is crappy art. Silly doesn't mean it has to look like crap. :think:
When did anyone say that the art was good in those shots? I don't recall anyone saying that, or even using it as an excuse to why the art is acceptable as it is.

The general consensus seems to be that, just to state, it is drawn that way on purpose, so why bother. Artistic choice, whatever.

I don't see why the art is something to even bother with. They will change artists soon anyways, and eventually something crappier will show up.
Considering, though, what has happened until recently with the change of artists, I believe that the final battle will be between stick figures.
Even Gogeta Jr's art deteriorated in detail as time went on. Quantity over quality,

Edit: By the way I would like to say that I personally am not interested one bit in the Dr. Slump universe, nor the other universes that are not directly connected to Dragonball's continuity.
I hope that this fight is over very soon.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Xyex » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:50 pm

Ugh. People need to stop complaining about the gag art for this chapter. Just because you don't like a style doesn't make it bad. I'm not a fan of the gag style here, either (except on the last reaction panel, it's perfect there) but it's not bad art, it's an artistic choice. Saying that it's bad just because it's not 'quality' style would be like saying that Picasso's art is bad because it's not realistic.

Anyway, LOVE this page! I actually laughed out loud when I saw Arale grab the planet to hit 18 with it. Pure genius. This fight's going to be great and I hope it doesn't end too quickly.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:57 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
rereboy wrote:It means that he could have used a more pleasant style in those panels
lol, nice one.
We have already seen various panels of this artist with very good art. The panels of arale and her gang are especially good. Its not my fault that you choose to ignore that.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:39 pm

rereboy wrote:
Marco Polo wrote:
rereboy wrote:It means that he could have used a more pleasant style in those panels
lol, nice one.
We have already seen various panels of this artist with very good art. The panels of arale and her gang are especially good. Its not my fault that you choose to ignore that.
He is only good at drawing Arale and copying a few other characters straight from their original artwork (like Robo). All his other panels are consistently bad.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:54 pm

Marco Polo wrote: He is only good at drawing Arale and copying a few other characters straight from their original artwork (like Robo). All his other panels are consistently bad.
Says the guy who argued that #18's face was drawn incorrectly, only to have "everyone" disagree with him immediately after...

Dude, just chill about the artwork. No need to exaggerate.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:56 pm

rereboy wrote:
Marco Polo wrote: He is only good at drawing Arale and copying a few other characters straight from their original artwork (like Robo). All his other panels are consistently bad.
Says the guy who argued that #18's face was drawn incorrectly, only to have "everyone" disagree with him immediately after.

2 people means "everyone"?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:03 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
rereboy wrote:
Marco Polo wrote: He is only good at drawing Arale and copying a few other characters straight from their original artwork (like Robo). All his other panels are consistently bad.
Says the guy who argued that #18's face was drawn incorrectly, only to have "everyone" disagree with him immediately after.

2 people means "everyone"?
Hence the quotation marks to indicate that its a figure of speech. Was it really necessary for me to explain that...?

It was 3 people btw (including me) and one of those people was Scarz who seems to be pretty good at drawing. Not to mention that no one actually replied to agree with his view, I believe.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:13 pm

rereboy wrote:
Hence the quotation marks to indicate that its a figure of speech. Was it really necessary for me to explain that...?

It was 3 people btw (including me) and one of those people was Scarz who seems to be pretty good at drawing. Not to mention that no one actually replied to agree with his view, I believe.
Well I also put the quotations. Even in a figure of speech form. At least 4 I could see that being usable. I didn't count you obviously. No disrespect to Scarz but it still a little bit of people. So to say "everyone" "immediately " is to big of an exaggeration.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:19 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Well I also put the quotations. Even in a figure of speech form. At least 4 I could see that being usable. I didn't count you obviously. No disrespect to Scarz but it still a little bit of people. So to say "everyone" "immediately " is to big of an exaggeration.
By using quotation marks I was, from the start, admitting that I was using an exaggerated expression or figure of speech. What more do you want...?

By the way, I didn't understand half of your post. I know that english is not your first language, but I simply couldn't understand half of it.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:22 pm

rereboy wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
Well I also put the quotations. Even in a figure of speech form. At least 4 I could see that being usable. I didn't count you obviously. No disrespect to Scarz but it still a little bit of people. So to say "everyone" "immediately " is to big of an exaggeration.
By using quotation marks I was, from the start, admitting that I was using an exaggerated expression or figure of speech. What more do you want...?

By the way, I didn't understand half of your post. I know that english is not your first language, but it simply couldn't understand half of it.
I said it was to little.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:24 pm

Her face being little was not his complain, it was its position. And regarding that, like Scarz said, its not perfect (perfect things are rare) but its correct.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:26 pm

rereboy wrote:Her face being little was not his complain, it was its position. And regarding that, like Scarz said, its not perfect (perfect things are rare) but its correct.
When did I say her face was little? I said the amount of people was to little for you to have a legit figure of speech

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:41 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
rereboy wrote:Her face being little was not his complain, it was its position. And regarding that, like Scarz said, its not perfect (perfect things are rare) but its correct.
When did I say her face was little? I said the amount of people was to little for you to have a legit figure of speech
Sorry, you are hard to understand.

I don't think you get what a figure of speech essentially is... A figure of speech is the use of a phrase or expression that transcends its literal meaning. That means that when I said everyone, I didn't actually mean everyone. It was an expression, an exaggeration to transmit a point. And one of the reasons why I exaggerated was because he was also exaggerating about the artwork being that bad.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:43 pm

rereboy wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
rereboy wrote:Her face being little was not his complain, it was its position. And regarding that, like Scarz said, its not perfect (perfect things are rare) but its correct.
When did I say her face was little? I said the amount of people was to little for you to have a legit figure of speech
Sorry, you are hard to understand.

I don't think you get what a figure of speech is... A figure of speech is the use of a phrase or expression that transcends its literal meaning. That means that when I said everyone, I didn't actually mean everyone. It was an expression, an exaggeration to transmit a point. And one of the reasons why I exaggerated was because he was also exaggerating about the artwork being that bad.
I know what that is. But even still 2 people makes it laughable. Had it been 4 maybe....

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:43 pm

Now you are just being silly.

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