Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

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Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:52 am

All he really wanted to do was resurrect his dead friend Raditz and spawn Saibaman, but he was bullied by Vegeta's higher power level in order to do more sadistic work.

Should it have been the more compassionate Nappa who was spared instead of Vegeta?
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:28 am

Nappa is at least 20 years older than Vegeta. He can resist peer pressure plus he seemed to have taken glee in causing pain to people. It isn't to say he's beyond redemption though.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by 90sDBZ » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:10 am

Well he did acknowledge the fact that the people on Arlia called him and Vegeta heroes before Vegeta dismissed it saying being a hero is overrated. Although that was filler and possibly just a dub line. I think if Vegeta could change then so could he.

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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:14 pm

I think Nappa could have been good if Vegeta didn't kill him off. If Vegeta didn't exist, I think Goku would have spare his life and let him recover after using the kaioken on him.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by Godo » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:54 pm

Nappa was in his childhood born into a low class family.
He was bullied daily by the other children, to such an extent that he had to fight physically from day one.
In this way, his battle power rose greatly until he became 16.
During this time, he was more and more accepted, but the stronger bullies still heckled him, now mostly because of his already thinning hair.
It was during this time, when there was a shortage of Saiya-jins, when he was offered to join a high-risk mission.
During the mission he fought bravely and became fast accepted as a great skilled fighter.
When their captain Gumel fell, he had to swiftly take over command of the group, and upon his arrival home he was offered to become an elite, although he was still not enough confident with his abilities.
Soon, though he became strong enough to independently lead the King's men, and it was during this time he forgot his old torment and started to enjoy taking lives and torturing others. He also started to verbally abuse other low class Saiya-jins around him.
All of this though, was due to his huge insecurity. Nobody knew that he blamed himself for Gumel's death.
Every night he fell asleep in huge disgust to himself and the only way for him to forget that feeling was by being an ass to others.
This went on until he was finally offed by Vegeta, when he in a last flashback remembered his wrongdoings and begged God for forgiveness.

So yeah, he was a misunderstood person.

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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by Marco Polo » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:08 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think Nappa could have been good if Vegeta didn't kill him off. If Vegeta didn't exist, I think Goku would have spare his life and let him recover after using the kaioken on him.
Well if Vegeta didn't exist Tenshinhan would have managed to kill Nappa.

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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:32 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Nappa is at least 20 years older than Vegeta. He can resist peer pressure plus he seemed to have taken glee in causing pain to people. It isn't to say he's beyond redemption though.
Age doesn't matter much. You'd still be afraid of a 13 year old kid if he had a loaded gun.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:48 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:I think Nappa could have been good if Vegeta didn't kill him off. If Vegeta didn't exist, I think Goku would have spare his life and let him recover after using the kaioken on him.
Well if Vegeta didn't exist Tenshinhan would have managed to kill Nappa.
I think he would died a lot quicker because there was no three hour time wait. Nappa would have killed everyone non-stop.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by hleV » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:54 pm

Yea, Nappa was a saint.

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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:28 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:I think Nappa could have been good if Vegeta didn't kill him off. If Vegeta didn't exist, I think Goku would have spare his life and let him recover after using the kaioken on him.
Well if Vegeta didn't exist Tenshinhan would have managed to kill Nappa.
:eh: No... no he wouldn't have. Nappa would have slaughtered them all had he been allowed to do his own thing.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:37 pm

Plus, when he first arrived on earth, he did kinda reduce a whole city and everyone in it to ash without any incentive or suggestion from Vegeta. In fact he suggested it himself. The guy commits genocide not even a page after getting out of his pod.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by aarondirebear » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:38 pm

Actually, Kuririn would have managed to slice him in half with his Kienzan if Vegeta hadn't warned him.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by mAcChaos » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:34 pm

Nappa is just as evil as Vegeta, he is just more loyal to his comrades.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:28 pm

mAcChaos wrote:Nappa is just as evil as Vegeta, he is just more loyal to his comrades.
His loyalty to his comrades showed he is at least more "humane" than Vegeta.

I still think its fucked up that the more evil dude is the one spared here.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:50 pm

Kid Buu wrote:
mAcChaos wrote:Nappa is just as evil as Vegeta, he is just more loyal to his comrades.
His loyalty to his comrades showed he is at least more "humane" than Vegeta.

I still think its fucked up that the more evil dude is the one spared here.
Considering the fact that if Vegeta was killed, Gohan and Krillin would have been slaughtered when they got on Namek seeing as Vegeta wouldent have been there to hold off the Ginyu Force until Goku arrived. So in this case, its a good thing he was spared.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:06 pm

Nappa was spared. It was Vegeta who killed him. So whether or not you think he was good enough to be spared, he was. He was also the one who wanted to blow up a city, so i'm gonna say no. He also seemed to delight in the pain of others. He didn't have to punch Tenshinhan's arm off, but he did.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:15 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
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mAcChaos wrote:Nappa is just as evil as Vegeta, he is just more loyal to his comrades.
His loyalty to his comrades showed he is at least more "humane" than Vegeta.

I still think its fucked up that the more evil dude is the one spared here.
Considering the fact that if Vegeta was killed, Gohan and Krillin would have been slaughtered when they got on Namek seeing as Vegeta wouldent have been there to hold off the Ginyu Force until Goku arrived. So in this case, its a good thing he was spared.
But it was Vegeta's fault Freeza and co. were on Namek on the first place. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by Rocketman » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:31 pm

If the Prince of all Dickheads Vegeta could be redeemed, both Raditz and Nappa could've too.

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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by Monkey D Goku » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:53 am

Marco Polo wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:I think Nappa could have been good if Vegeta didn't kill him off. If Vegeta didn't exist, I think Goku would have spare his life and let him recover after using the kaioken on him.
Well if Vegeta didn't exist Tenshinhan would have managed to kill Nappa.

For that matter Krillin could have also killed Nappa. I mean with the destructo disc he would have been sliced in half were it not for Vegeta's warning.
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Re: Is Nappa a misunderstood person?

Post by mAcChaos » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:00 am

Rocketman wrote:If the Prince of all Dickheads Vegeta could be redeemed, both Raditz and Nappa could've too.
Not necessarily. It's not like Freeza could have been redeemed. Some of them don't have the necessary personality traits to tug them in the right direction. Vegeta had that competitiveness that kept him constantly trying to catch up to Goku which made him go through a whole bunch of things that made him good in the end. Nappa seems like the type that doesn't care about that as long as he can bully other people around. He seems more like Babidi than Vegeta.
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