Was it stated that Beerus can destroy a solar system?
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Was it stated that Beerus can destroy a solar system?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Birus destroying a galaxy was a mistranslation. Didn't Uis say that he can blow up a solar system if he gets angry?
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
Whis said a pissed off Bills could destroy the galaxy.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
He can destroy solar system in instant with his power, not galaxy...OWmyDragonBallz wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Birus destroying a galaxy was a mistranslation. Didn't Uis say that he can blow up a solar system if he gets angry?
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
That is very impressive, it's something to think that some random western comic book character could brush that aside. I think there should be this line that when its crossed it just drifts into the realms of obscurity. I have looked at so many vs. threads, not just DBZ vs. whatever but many other vs. topics and most stuff is just ridiculous. I don't know where i am going with this.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
He could of just meant destroy the star. We already know that Bills has wiped out stars in the past. It probably means that he would just wipe out the star and the supernova would wipe out the solar system.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
In one of the previews, Kuririn says the Earth is in danger, and Piccolo responds by saying the entire galaxy (ginga in Japanese) is going to be wiped out. However, this dialogue is not part of the actual movie.
But Whis does say at one point in the movie that if Beers is angered, then the entire solar system (taiyou-kei in Japanese) will be wiped out in no time flat.
So to confuse matters, apparently one of the fansubs for the movie floating around mistranslates Whis' line to say that the galaxy will be wiped out, rather than the solar system. This is a rather egregious error, as taiyou-kei translates pretty directly into "solar system": taiyou=sun/solar, and kei=system. Mostly like the translator had a poor grasp of astronomy, and simply considered "solar system" and "galaxy" to be interchangeable terms.
But Whis does say at one point in the movie that if Beers is angered, then the entire solar system (taiyou-kei in Japanese) will be wiped out in no time flat.
So to confuse matters, apparently one of the fansubs for the movie floating around mistranslates Whis' line to say that the galaxy will be wiped out, rather than the solar system. This is a rather egregious error, as taiyou-kei translates pretty directly into "solar system": taiyou=sun/solar, and kei=system. Mostly like the translator had a poor grasp of astronomy, and simply considered "solar system" and "galaxy" to be interchangeable terms.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
An annoying thing with the fansub floating around is they keep calling Kaio's planet a "star". I know the Japanese words for "planet" and "star" are the same word, but Kaio's place is clearly a planet. 
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
It's stated he could wipe out the Solar System in no time flat, but that's just a statement. I wouldn't be surprised if he could do that, but we never see it so we can't really be sure.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
I can believe it. We saw what he could do to 8 or so moons with little to no effort at all and he only used 70% of his power against Goku. I could see him busting a solar system with some effort.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
Well if Super Perfect Cell claims he can... I think it goes without saying.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
If we go by powerscaling then we could. I see people saying that he could destroy a Galaxy, but I guess it depends on the fansubs that people watch. I guess we will have to wait for FUNI subs to find out.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
Yeah... if you assume Cell wasn't exaggerating much (if at all) when he said he could take out a solar system, it should be no surprise at all that Beers can wipe out a solar system with very little effort if he really wanted to.
I mean seriously, even SSj2 Goku and Vegeta should be way ahead of Cell by this point, considering that they're supposed to be at or above the level that Gohan was at when fighting Cell as a kid. Beers makes SSj3 Goku, Gohan, Gotenks, Buu, etc. look like complete chumps while not even really trying. These are Buu-level characters being given the Yamcha treatment here. The guy is stronger than Super Buu (after absorbing Gohan) and even the freaking Goku/Vegeta fusions, for crying out loud. To seriously question if he could pull off something that even Cell could manage, or claim that he'd need to put forth a good amount of effort to do so, is just ridiculous. My guess is that it's exactly like Whis said: Beers could wipe out a solar system in an instant if he feels like it. And none of this "oh he'll just blow up the sun and the supernova will take out the rest" crap either (I wouldn't be surprised if that's the method Cell had in mind, but... Beers is way way way WAY beyond Cell's level), just power up a bit and then after one massive BOOM it's all gone.
Whether or not he could wipe out an entire galaxy is a better question. There's really not much need for anyone to ever use that level of power even if they technically could do it, and it's hard to really say how much he'd even need to pull it off since we don't know how big the Dragonball "galaxies" really are (there's only four of them, so are they bigger than our galaxies in order to fill up an equally-sized universe? or are they smaller due to the Dragonball universe as a whole being a lot smaller than our own? are they even "galaxies" by real-life science definition at all, or are they more like "clusters of what we would call galaxies," like in the old "four quadrants of the universe with four galaxies in each" theory?)
If you count the anime filler's scene of Super Buu being able to collapse dimensions together to indirectly destroy everything, it'd be safe to assume that Beers could pull off a universe-wrecking chain reaction that way if he really went nuts... but that's not quite the same thing as just blowing everything up with a massive ki blast, of course. Aside from the "scream enough and everything implodes on itself" method, it's pretty much impossible to say for sure exactly what the upper limit of Beers' destructive capacity really is. We just haven't seen enough of what he's capable of to say for sure.
I mean seriously, even SSj2 Goku and Vegeta should be way ahead of Cell by this point, considering that they're supposed to be at or above the level that Gohan was at when fighting Cell as a kid. Beers makes SSj3 Goku, Gohan, Gotenks, Buu, etc. look like complete chumps while not even really trying. These are Buu-level characters being given the Yamcha treatment here. The guy is stronger than Super Buu (after absorbing Gohan) and even the freaking Goku/Vegeta fusions, for crying out loud. To seriously question if he could pull off something that even Cell could manage, or claim that he'd need to put forth a good amount of effort to do so, is just ridiculous. My guess is that it's exactly like Whis said: Beers could wipe out a solar system in an instant if he feels like it. And none of this "oh he'll just blow up the sun and the supernova will take out the rest" crap either (I wouldn't be surprised if that's the method Cell had in mind, but... Beers is way way way WAY beyond Cell's level), just power up a bit and then after one massive BOOM it's all gone.
Whether or not he could wipe out an entire galaxy is a better question. There's really not much need for anyone to ever use that level of power even if they technically could do it, and it's hard to really say how much he'd even need to pull it off since we don't know how big the Dragonball "galaxies" really are (there's only four of them, so are they bigger than our galaxies in order to fill up an equally-sized universe? or are they smaller due to the Dragonball universe as a whole being a lot smaller than our own? are they even "galaxies" by real-life science definition at all, or are they more like "clusters of what we would call galaxies," like in the old "four quadrants of the universe with four galaxies in each" theory?)
If you count the anime filler's scene of Super Buu being able to collapse dimensions together to indirectly destroy everything, it'd be safe to assume that Beers could pull off a universe-wrecking chain reaction that way if he really went nuts... but that's not quite the same thing as just blowing everything up with a massive ki blast, of course. Aside from the "scream enough and everything implodes on itself" method, it's pretty much impossible to say for sure exactly what the upper limit of Beers' destructive capacity really is. We just haven't seen enough of what he's capable of to say for sure.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
I can't see a DB character destroying a galaxy in one shot. Galaxies are way too big and I doubt even SSj4 Gogeta can blow up a galaxy with 1% of his power.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
There's no need to wait. In the movie Whis says taiyou-kei, which means "solar system" and does not mean "galaxy". Nothing is said in the movie about Beers being able to destroy a galaxy. I mean, maybe he could, but there's no line in the movie that says so.Hellspawn28 wrote:I see people saying that he could destroy a Galaxy, but I guess it depends on the fansubs that people watch. I guess we will have to wait for FUNI subs to find out.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
Whis is Birus' martial arts master, he's fully knowledgable on what Birus is capable of and has no need to exaggerate Birus' powers. It's likely Birus has done so before being the God of Destruction and all.TheMightyOzaru wrote:It's stated he could wipe out the Solar System in no time flat, but that's just a statement. I wouldn't be surprised if he could do that, but we never see it so we can't really be sure.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?
Maybe if there were ever a God arc to continue the movie I can see that being a possibility for the characters.Hellspawn28 wrote:I can't see a DB character destroying a galaxy in one shot. Galaxies are way too big and I doubt even SSj4 Gogeta can blow up a galaxy with 1% of his power.
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Re: Was it stated that Beerus can destroy a solar system?
This is a very old thread, but did the English dub of the movie say from Kaio that Beerus is galaxy buster?
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I believe so, yes.OWmyDragonBallz wrote:This is a very old thread, but did the English dub of the movie say from Kaio that Beerus is galaxy buster?
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Re: Was it stated that Beerus can destroy a solar system?
I am surprised that FUNimation translated that part poorly considering how better they have gotten over the years. What does Kaio say in the Japanese version again? Not near the movie at the moment.SSJ God Gogeta wrote:I believe so, yes.OWmyDragonBallz wrote:This is a very old thread, but did the English dub of the movie say from Kaio that Beerus is galaxy buster?
Re: Was it stated that Beerus can destroy a solar system?
I'm not sure if they said he was a galaxy buster or not, but Whis clearly said he would wipe out the solar system.
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