Was it stated that Beerus can destroy a solar system?

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Was it stated that Beerus can destroy a solar system?

Post by OWmyDragonBallz » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:37 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Birus destroying a galaxy was a mistranslation. Didn't Uis say that he can blow up a solar system if he gets angry?

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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:31 am

Whis said a pissed off Bills could destroy the galaxy.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by Super Vegetto » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:10 pm

OWmyDragonBallz wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Birus destroying a galaxy was a mistranslation. Didn't Uis say that he can blow up a solar system if he gets angry?
He can destroy solar system in instant with his power, not galaxy...

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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by Haji » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:40 pm

That is very impressive, it's something to think that some random western comic book character could brush that aside. I think there should be this line that when its crossed it just drifts into the realms of obscurity. I have looked at so many vs. threads, not just DBZ vs. whatever but many other vs. topics and most stuff is just ridiculous. I don't know where i am going with this.

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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by Saiyatonian » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:33 pm

He could of just meant destroy the star. We already know that Bills has wiped out stars in the past. It probably means that he would just wipe out the star and the supernova would wipe out the solar system.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by Herms » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:26 am

In one of the previews, Kuririn says the Earth is in danger, and Piccolo responds by saying the entire galaxy (ginga in Japanese) is going to be wiped out. However, this dialogue is not part of the actual movie.

But Whis does say at one point in the movie that if Beers is angered, then the entire solar system (taiyou-kei in Japanese) will be wiped out in no time flat.

So to confuse matters, apparently one of the fansubs for the movie floating around mistranslates Whis' line to say that the galaxy will be wiped out, rather than the solar system. This is a rather egregious error, as taiyou-kei translates pretty directly into "solar system": taiyou=sun/solar, and kei=system. Mostly like the translator had a poor grasp of astronomy, and simply considered "solar system" and "galaxy" to be interchangeable terms.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by Marco Polo » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:45 am

An annoying thing with the fansub floating around is they keep calling Kaio's planet a "star". I know the Japanese words for "planet" and "star" are the same word, but Kaio's place is clearly a planet. :problem:

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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:36 am

It's stated he could wipe out the Solar System in no time flat, but that's just a statement. I wouldn't be surprised if he could do that, but we never see it so we can't really be sure.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:10 pm

I can believe it. We saw what he could do to 8 or so moons with little to no effort at all and he only used 70% of his power against Goku. I could see him busting a solar system with some effort.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:29 pm

Well if Super Perfect Cell claims he can... I think it goes without saying.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:54 pm

If we go by powerscaling then we could. I see people saying that he could destroy a Galaxy, but I guess it depends on the fansubs that people watch. I guess we will have to wait for FUNI subs to find out.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by Pantalones » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:54 pm

Yeah... if you assume Cell wasn't exaggerating much (if at all) when he said he could take out a solar system, it should be no surprise at all that Beers can wipe out a solar system with very little effort if he really wanted to.

I mean seriously, even SSj2 Goku and Vegeta should be way ahead of Cell by this point, considering that they're supposed to be at or above the level that Gohan was at when fighting Cell as a kid. Beers makes SSj3 Goku, Gohan, Gotenks, Buu, etc. look like complete chumps while not even really trying. These are Buu-level characters being given the Yamcha treatment here. The guy is stronger than Super Buu (after absorbing Gohan) and even the freaking Goku/Vegeta fusions, for crying out loud. To seriously question if he could pull off something that even Cell could manage, or claim that he'd need to put forth a good amount of effort to do so, is just ridiculous. My guess is that it's exactly like Whis said: Beers could wipe out a solar system in an instant if he feels like it. And none of this "oh he'll just blow up the sun and the supernova will take out the rest" crap either (I wouldn't be surprised if that's the method Cell had in mind, but... Beers is way way way WAY beyond Cell's level), just power up a bit and then after one massive BOOM it's all gone.

Whether or not he could wipe out an entire galaxy is a better question. There's really not much need for anyone to ever use that level of power even if they technically could do it, and it's hard to really say how much he'd even need to pull it off since we don't know how big the Dragonball "galaxies" really are (there's only four of them, so are they bigger than our galaxies in order to fill up an equally-sized universe? or are they smaller due to the Dragonball universe as a whole being a lot smaller than our own? are they even "galaxies" by real-life science definition at all, or are they more like "clusters of what we would call galaxies," like in the old "four quadrants of the universe with four galaxies in each" theory?)
If you count the anime filler's scene of Super Buu being able to collapse dimensions together to indirectly destroy everything, it'd be safe to assume that Beers could pull off a universe-wrecking chain reaction that way if he really went nuts... but that's not quite the same thing as just blowing everything up with a massive ki blast, of course. Aside from the "scream enough and everything implodes on itself" method, it's pretty much impossible to say for sure exactly what the upper limit of Beers' destructive capacity really is. We just haven't seen enough of what he's capable of to say for sure.

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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:02 pm

I can't see a DB character destroying a galaxy in one shot. Galaxies are way too big and I doubt even SSj4 Gogeta can blow up a galaxy with 1% of his power.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by Herms » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:55 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I see people saying that he could destroy a Galaxy, but I guess it depends on the fansubs that people watch. I guess we will have to wait for FUNI subs to find out.
There's no need to wait. In the movie Whis says taiyou-kei, which means "solar system" and does not mean "galaxy". Nothing is said in the movie about Beers being able to destroy a galaxy. I mean, maybe he could, but there's no line in the movie that says so.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by The Monkey King » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:04 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:It's stated he could wipe out the Solar System in no time flat, but that's just a statement. I wouldn't be surprised if he could do that, but we never see it so we can't really be sure.
Whis is Birus' martial arts master, he's fully knowledgable on what Birus is capable of and has no need to exaggerate Birus' powers. It's likely Birus has done so before being the God of Destruction and all.
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Re: Was it stated that Birus can destroy a solar system?

Post by Saiyatonian » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:10 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I can't see a DB character destroying a galaxy in one shot. Galaxies are way too big and I doubt even SSj4 Gogeta can blow up a galaxy with 1% of his power.
Maybe if there were ever a God arc to continue the movie I can see that being a possibility for the characters.
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Re: Was it stated that Beerus can destroy a solar system?

Post by OWmyDragonBallz » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:45 pm

This is a very old thread, but did the English dub of the movie say from Kaio that Beerus is galaxy buster?

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Re: Was it stated that Beerus can destroy a solar system?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:48 pm

OWmyDragonBallz wrote:This is a very old thread, but did the English dub of the movie say from Kaio that Beerus is galaxy buster?
I believe so, yes.
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Re: Was it stated that Beerus can destroy a solar system?

Post by OWmyDragonBallz » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:52 pm

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:
OWmyDragonBallz wrote:This is a very old thread, but did the English dub of the movie say from Kaio that Beerus is galaxy buster?
I believe so, yes.
I am surprised that FUNimation translated that part poorly considering how better they have gotten over the years. What does Kaio say in the Japanese version again? Not near the movie at the moment.

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Re: Was it stated that Beerus can destroy a solar system?

Post by MajinMan » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:08 pm

I'm not sure if they said he was a galaxy buster or not, but Whis clearly said he would wipe out the solar system.
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