Wait why? Gohan got weaker...RandomGuy96 wrote:Gohan stomps even harder than Cell Games SS Gohan would have. Goku gets absolutely murdered here.TheGmGoken wrote:SSJ Teen Gohan vs Cell Games Goku
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While Gohan did surpass Goku in the Cell games with SSJ2, Goku did perform way better in SSJ1 against Cell compared to Gohan. Couple that with Gohan slacking for 7 years, id say Goku takes it.TheGmGoken wrote:SSJ Teen Gohan vs Cell Games Goku
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No, he lost the ability to gain power from rage. So his SS2 would be weaker. But, logically, due to training for the Budokai and growing into an adult body, his SS should be stronger.TheGmGoken wrote:Wait why? Gohan got weaker...RandomGuy96 wrote:Gohan stomps even harder than Cell Games SS Gohan would have. Goku gets absolutely murdered here.TheGmGoken wrote:SSJ Teen Gohan vs Cell Games Goku
HE didn't need SS2 to surpass Goku. He was already far stronger with just SS1. Four characters stated this, numerous times.While Gohan did surpass Goku in the Cell games with SSJ2, Goku did perform way better in SSJ1 against Cell compared to Gohan. Couple that with Gohan slacking for 7 years, id say Goku takes it.
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Gohan already surpassed Goku in SSJ. Hell one kick made Cell bleed from Gohan. Cell was forced to move faster against Gohan than he was against Goku. Gohan thought Goku was holding back because he compared their powers and his was greater. So he thought Goku must still not be trying. So Gohan as an SSJ should have a significant lead. The real question is which statements you believe in for Adult Gohan.KentalSSJ6 wrote:While Gohan did surpass Goku in the Cell games with SSJ2, Goku did perform way better in SSJ1 against Cell compared to Gohan. Couple that with Gohan slacking for 7 years, id say Goku takes it.TheGmGoken wrote:SSJ Teen Gohan vs Cell Games Goku
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I believe in the weaker than CG Gohan. Fits better IMO. Or combine both and say he got weaker and lost his rage boost. I honestly have weaker Gohan at CG Goku level. So Goku could win because of skill.dbzfan7 wrote:Gohan already surpassed Goku in SSJ. Hell one kick made Cell bleed from Gohan. Cell was forced to move faster against Gohan than he was against Goku. Gohan thought Goku was holding back because he compared their powers and his was greater. So he thought Goku must still not be trying. So Gohan as an SSJ should have a significant lead. The real question is which statements you believe in for Adult Gohan.KentalSSJ6 wrote:While Gohan did surpass Goku in the Cell games with SSJ2, Goku did perform way better in SSJ1 against Cell compared to Gohan. Couple that with Gohan slacking for 7 years, id say Goku takes it.TheGmGoken wrote:SSJ Teen Gohan vs Cell Games Goku
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In which there are dozens of statements which never seem to add up when compared with each other.dbzfan7 wrote:Gohan already surpassed Goku in SSJ. Hell one kick made Cell bleed from Gohan. Cell was forced to move faster against Gohan than he was against Goku. Gohan thought Goku was holding back because he compared their powers and his was greater. So he thought Goku must still not be trying. So Gohan as an SSJ should have a significant lead. The real question is which statements you believe in for Adult Gohan.KentalSSJ6 wrote:While Gohan did surpass Goku in the Cell games with SSJ2, Goku did perform way better in SSJ1 against Cell compared to Gohan. Couple that with Gohan slacking for 7 years, id say Goku takes it.TheGmGoken wrote:SSJ Teen Gohan vs Cell Games Goku
I personally have Teen SSJ Gohan at around Cell Saga Goku.
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Not only Goku, but Cell and Piccolo believe this too. Gohan had a significant advantage over his dad in SSJ.KentalSSJ6 wrote:In which there are dozens of statements which never seem to add up when compared with each other.
I personally have Teen SSJ Gohan at around Cell Saga Goku.
I personally believe Gohan getting an Adult Body helped him keep his power (excluding rage boosts)
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Not only Goku, but Cell and Piccolo believe this too. Gohan had a significant advantage over his dad in SSJ.KentalSSJ6 wrote:In which there are dozens of statements which never seem to add up when compared with each other.
I personally have Teen SSJ Gohan at around Cell Saga Goku.
I personally believe Gohan getting an Adult Body helped him keep his power (excluding rage boosts)
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DbzFan you double posted the same post lol. Anyways Kental how was it contradicted that Gohan > Goku?
In which there are dozens of statements which never seem to add up when compared with each other.
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It happened unfortunately and I can't delete one of them.TheGmGoken wrote:DbzFan you double posted the same post lol. Anyways Kental how was it contradicted that Gohan > Goku?
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Goku can only win with a Shunkan Ido Kamehameha.TheGmGoken wrote:SSJ Teen Gohan vs Cell Games Goku
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Future Trunks by the Android saga stated he can fight the Future Androids "Fairly decently"....he was one hit fodder for present #17. There should be a large gap between the two Androids in their timelines....unless they just toyed with him and suppressed themselves or something.TheMightyOzaru wrote:The Cyborgs are much stronger than that in the future. They're definitely weaker than the present Cyborgs, but not by much. The Cyborgs take this.
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I'm pretty sure they're holding back.Victorious wrote:Future Trunks by the Android saga stated he can fight the Future Androids "Fairly decently"....he was one hit fodder for present #17. There should be a large gap between the two Androids in their timelines....unless they just toyed with him and suppressed themselves or something.TheMightyOzaru wrote:The Cyborgs are much stronger than that in the future. They're definitely weaker than the present Cyborgs, but not by much. The Cyborgs take this.
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But getting weaker due to lack of training has to lower your power in the SSJ state, because SSJ levels are just multipliers, and Gohan obviously still had the ability to go SSJ2, which suggests that he still recalled how to extend his base power to great lengths (which seems more of a "knowing your own body" thing).
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His power can only get lower in Base. Reason he is weaker in SSJ2 form is because he is not drawing strenght from anger like he did in Cell games.Cursed Lemon wrote:But getting weaker due to lack of training has to lower your power in the SSJ state, because SSJ levels are just multipliers, and Gohan obviously still had the ability to go SSJ2, which suggests that he still recalled how to extend his base power to great lengths (which seems more of a "knowing your own body" thing).
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I believe his adult body countered his decrease. Hell for someone who apparently did nothing his muscles are chiseled and more defined then how he was as a kid.
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What about this:dbzfan7 wrote:I believe his adult body countered his decrease. Hell for someone who apparently did nothing his muscles are chiseled and more defined then how he was as a kid.
Chapter: 423 (DBZ 229), P4.1
Vegeta: “Your body’s gotten rusty. No matter how peaceful it may be, you should still train just in case.”
Shouldn't that mean Kid Gohan is much sharper than Teen Gohan ?
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Compare their builds. Adult Gohan is much more muscular than Kid Gohan. You'd think Gohan would have gotten skinny but it's actually the opposite that happens.Super Vegetto wrote:What about this:dbzfan7 wrote:I believe his adult body countered his decrease. Hell for someone who apparently did nothing his muscles are chiseled and more defined then how he was as a kid.
Chapter: 423 (DBZ 229), P4.1
Vegeta: “Your body’s gotten rusty. No matter how peaceful it may be, you should still train just in case.”
Shouldn't that mean Kid Gohan is much sharper than Teen Gohan ?
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SSJ2 Gohan Vs. Super Perfect Cell if they actually fought
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Actualy that statment doesn't make sense if its wrong.dbzfan7 wrote:Compare their builds. Adult Gohan is much more muscular than Kid Gohan. You'd think Gohan would have gotten skinny but it's actually the opposite that happens.Super Vegetto wrote:What about this:dbzfan7 wrote:I believe his adult body countered his decrease. Hell for someone who apparently did nothing his muscles are chiseled and more defined then how he was as a kid.
Chapter: 423 (DBZ 229), P4.1
Vegeta: “Your body’s gotten rusty. No matter how peaceful it may be, you should still train just in case.”
Shouldn't that mean Kid Gohan is much sharper than Teen Gohan ?
Gohan's build looks better because he is 7 years older and got higher because of puberty. Maybe he did stayed the same, but not like 7 years before where he intensitly trained his body and was much tougher.







