One more person, and Bebi Vegeta would attain SSJG?
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superkakarrot2
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Re: One more person, and Bebi Vegeta would attain SSJG?
I think the Pilaf gang being kids contradicts GT because if you assume they wished again it creates a plot hole because every wish has a counterpart shadow dragon. So I think Toei messed up a little.
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Re: One more person, and Bebi Vegeta would attain SSJG?
The wish to bring back Piccolo Daimao's victims, the wish to remove #17's & #18's bombs, and the wish to bring back Cell's victims didn't create any Evil Dragon.superkakarrot2 wrote:I think the Pilaf gang being kids contradicts GT because if you assume they wished again it creates a plot hole because every wish has a counterpart shadow dragon. So I think Toei messed up a little.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: One more person, and Bebi Vegeta would attain SSJG?
For all we know they find the Dragon Balls again and wish themselves older, and then maybe these two opposite wishes cancel each other.superkakarrot2 wrote:I think the Pilaf gang being kids contradicts GT because if you assume they wished again it creates a plot hole because every wish has a counterpart shadow dragon. So I think Toei messed up a little.
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Re: One more person, and Bebi Vegeta would attain SSJG?
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The wish to bring back Piccolo Daimao's victims, the wish to remove #17's & #18's bombs, and the wish to bring back Cell's victims didn't create any Evil Dragon.superkakarrot2 wrote:I think the Pilaf gang being kids contradicts GT because if you assume they wished again it creates a plot hole because every wish has a counterpart shadow dragon. So I think Toei messed up a little.
The other wishes slipped my mind but yeah you're rightMarco Polo wrote:For all we know they find the Dragon Balls again and wish themselves older, and then maybe these two opposite wishes cancel each other.superkakarrot2 wrote:I think the Pilaf gang being kids contradicts GT because if you assume they wished again it creates a plot hole because every wish has a counterpart shadow dragon. So I think Toei messed up a little.
, maybe it's just random what wish dragons are created from; makes me wonder why have no evil dragon created by certain wishes still find it strange that Pilaf being old would never even be mentioned, then again GT has other problems too.I like the opposite wishes theory. Maybe if wishes from the same individual are too similar they don't count.
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Re: One more person, and Bebi Vegeta would attain SSJG?
Read Young Jijii's AF.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The wish to bring back Piccolo Daimao's victims, the wish to remove #17's & #18's bombs, and the wish to bring back Cell's victims didn't create any Evil Dragon.superkakarrot2 wrote:I think the Pilaf gang being kids contradicts GT because if you assume they wished again it creates a plot hole because every wish has a counterpart shadow dragon. So I think Toei messed up a little.
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Re: One more person, and Bebi Vegeta would attain SSJG?
Already have actually.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Read Young Jijii's AF.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The wish to bring back Piccolo Daimao's victims, the wish to remove #17's & #18's bombs, and the wish to bring back Cell's victims didn't create any Evil Dragon.superkakarrot2 wrote:I think the Pilaf gang being kids contradicts GT because if you assume they wished again it creates a plot hole because every wish has a counterpart shadow dragon. So I think Toei messed up a little.
But that's not official.James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: One more person, and Bebi Vegeta would attain SSJG?
I know, but I'm looking at it in a universe stand point of view. I think Toei ignores the DBZ movies in the anime timeline expect for Movie 1 and maybe 13. If Movie 8 did happen in the anime then South Kai would have talked about how the galaxy he watched over was gone. I doubt he will be like "Oh billions of people died. I'm going to forget it never happen".TheGmGoken wrote:GT was made long before BoG was even thought ofHellspawn28 wrote:Well they never mention BOG again in GT. If they never mention it again then it never happen. Same goes with the past DBZ movies. Dead Zone happen in the anime since the Garlic Jr saga makes references to it. The Garlic Jr. saga happen in the anime since Kulilin's GF has appear in several episodes and the same Sacred Water was used again in GT.
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Re: One more person, and Bebi Vegeta would attain SSJG?
The movies, minus BoG, are stated to take place in alternative continuities (except for M1 & M5, which take place in the main continuity as well). BoG on the other hand, is officially stated to be part of the official history. I don't know if that makes it canon for the manga, but I think it makes it canon to the anime.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.