How strong is Pui-Pui?

[TheGmGoken]

Supreme Kai wpuld be scared of a Saibamkmen if it has a M on his head. Anything majin he is scarred of. Also there is no way any base saiyan surpass 100 Freeza:

[Kakashi]

Supreme Kai wpuld be scared of a Saibamkmen if it has a M on his head. Anything majin he is scarred of. Also there is no way any base saiyan surpass 100 Freeza:

There is no way that the Base Saiyajs are weaker than Frieza with the big gaps of the Cell Saga

[TheMightyOzaru]

Supreme Kai wpuld be scared of a Saibamkmen if it has a M on his head. Anything majin he is scarred of. Also there is no way any base saiyan surpass 100 Freeza:

There is no way that the Base Saiyajs are weaker than Freeza with the big gaps of the Cell Saga

Again, there is a way, you're just too close minded about gaps.

[Kakashi]

Supreme Kai wpuld be scared of a Saibamkmen if it has a M on his head. Anything majin he is scarred of. Also there is no way any base saiyan surpass 100 Freeza:

There is no way that the Base Saiyajs are weaker than Freeza with the big gaps of the Cell Saga

Again, there is a way, you're just too close minded about gaps.

That's like saying someone with a battle level of 62 can stomp someone with a battle level of 61. Kaioshin considers Frieza trash but thinks he won't be able to beat Goku

[kuartus4]

Supreme Kai wpuld be scared of a Saibamkmen if it has a M on his head. Anything majin he is scarred of. Also there is no way any base saiyan surpass 100 Freeza:

There is no way that the Base Saiyajs are weaker than Freeza with the big gaps of the Cell Saga

Let me guess, imperfect cell tanking kamicollo's light grenade. Gee, I guess that means imperfect cell is 3x stronger than kamicollo, right? Actually no. Goku was able to completely tank piccollo's hyper explosive demon wave, his strongest attack, without a scratch. And they were both at roughly equal power levels.

[RandomGuy96]

An injured and exhausted Piccolo managed to easily tank Goku's Super Kamehameha. Keep in mind that a NORMAL Kamehameha a few years later was over twice as powerful as Goku himself. So obviously this means Piccolo was 3-4 times stronger than Goku.

[Kakashi]

Supreme Kai wpuld be scared of a Saibamkmen if it has a M on his head. Anything majin he is scarred of. Also there is no way any base saiyan surpass 100 Freeza:

There is no way that the Base Saiyajs are weaker than Freeza with the big gaps of the Cell Saga

Let me guess, imperfect cell tanking kamicollo's light grenade. Gee, I guess that means imperfect cell is 3x stronger than kamicollo, right? Actually no. Goku was able to completely tank piccollo's hyper explosive demon wave, his strongest attack, without a scratch. And they were both at roughly equal power levels.

Goku never tanked it and even without it Base Saiyans being weaker than Frieza makes no sense

[Kakashi]

An injured and exhausted Piccolo managed to easily tank Goku's Super Kamehameha. Keep in mind that a NORMAL Kamehameha a few years later was over twice as powerful as Goku himself. So obviously this means Piccolo was 3-4 times stronger than Goku.

Piccolo never tanked it. The Kamehameha damaged him and was half dead

[TheMightyOzaru]

That's like saying someone with a battle level of 62 can stomp someone with a battle level of 61. Kaioshin considers Freeza trash but thinks he won't be able to beat Goku

No... no it's not like saying that at all... Kaioshin knows Goku can turn into a SSJ .

An injured and exhausted Piccolo managed to easily tank Goku's Super Kamehameha. Keep in mind that a NORMAL Kamehameha a few years later was over twice as powerful as Goku himself. So obviously this means Piccolo was 3-4 times stronger than Goku.

Piccolo never tanked it. The Kamehameha damaged him and was half dead

No he didn't:

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[Kakashi]

That's like saying someone with a battle level of 62 can stomp someone with a battle level of 61. Kaioshin considers Freeza trash but thinks he won't be able to beat Goku

No... no it's not like saying that at all... Kaioshin knows Goku can turn into a SSJ .

An injured and exhausted Piccolo managed to easily tank Goku's Super Kamehameha. Keep in mind that a NORMAL Kamehameha a few years later was over twice as powerful as Goku himself. So obviously this means Piccolo was 3-4 times stronger than Goku.

Piccolo never tanked it. The Kamehameha damaged him and was half dead

No he didn't:

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Kaioshin never knew Goku can turn SSjin and it's the same as you say the gaps are irrelevant. He survived it, not tanked it

[kuartus4]

@kakashi,

Goku never tanked it? Piccolo never tanked it? Dude, what manga have you been reading?

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So he has a few scratches, but still, no real damage. And again, roughly equal power levels

[TheMightyOzaru]

Kaioshin never knew Goku can turn SSjin and it's the same as you say the gaps are irrelevant. He survived it, not tanked it

I shouldn't even bother, since you are too stubborn to even humor me or anyone else, but Kaioshin DOES know the Saiyans can turn into SSJs. Piccolo tanked it. He continues to fight afterward sooooooooo... I'm beginning to question whether or not you've even read the manga.

[Vice]

I used to believe he was far stronger than Freeza because Freeza's treated like trash in that arc, but with BoG's recent revelations it looks like I'll have to change my stance on this.

[LunarMoon]

Roughly as high as 18,000, but as low as 1,500. The guy bragged about training in 10x Earth's gravity before being toyed with by Vegeta in his base.

Weaker than final form Freeza for sure. He MIGHT be stronger than one or all of the first three forms, but there's nothing substantial supporting it. I personally just have him at 800,000, in between first and second form Freeza, to give him his credit as one of the strongest beings in the universe.

The Ginyu Force was made up of the most powerful collection of mutants and genetic freak found throughout the universe - the elite of the elite. Ginyu was said to be second to Frieza with a power level of 120,000. 800,000 seems a bit too generous; anything on the level of the average Ginyu Force member, such as Jeice or Burter, would have been more than enough to catch Babidi's eye, and even someone on the level of an elite saiyan (6,000-18,000), beings capable of soloing most planets and advanced civilizations throughout the Dragonverse, would be considered to be extremely powerful. As absurdly powerful as the Z-Warriors became, the standards of the overall universe would have remained the same from the Namek Saga forward.

[ThePrinceOfSaiyans]

Early Saiyan Saga levels...

Goku trained in 10x gravity on King Kai's planet when he first died, this would put him mostly on par with Pui Pui without the kaioken and spirit bomb I believe.

Pui Pui's statement of 10x gravity being heavy and how Vegeta has no chance shows how weak he is... Goku had to conquer 10x gravity before he did any actual training or learnt any new techniques.

[Nazi Cola]

Early Saiyan Saga levels...

Goku trained in 10x gravity on King Kai's planet when he first died, this would put him mostly on par with Pui Pui without the kaioken and spirit bomb I believe.

Pui Pui's statement of 10x gravity being heavy and how Vegeta has no chance shows how weak he is... Goku had to conquer 10x gravity before he did any actual training or learnt any new techniques.

Gravity's inconsistent. I don't really think it should be used to automatically say Pui-Pui is that weak.

[Kingsley]

I just answered that question. He can't sense energy.

Kaioshin sensed Gohan's energy at the world tourney, he also was the first one to sense Goku turning SSJ3 from otherworld. And even if he can't (though he can) surely he can just watch the performance of Pui Pui and compare it to himself, and was still scared by him. Pui Pui being around SSJ Android Arc Vegeta seems alright.

[LunarMoon]

I just answered that question. He can't sense energy.

Kaioshin sensed Gohan's energy at the world tourney, he also was the first one to sense Goku turning SSJ3 from otherworld. And even if he can't (though he can) surely he can just watch the performance of Pui Pui and compare it to himself, and was still scared by him. Pui Pui being around SSJ Android Arc Vegeta seems alright.

Beerus said that base saiyans are weaker than Frieza. Vegeta one-shotted him in his base. Pui Pui is trash, at least by the standards of anyone on Frieza's level.

[Insertclevername]

Pretty strong. Just not as strong as Vegeta.

[Kingsley]

I just answered that question. He can't sense energy.

Kaioshin sensed Gohan's energy at the world tourney, he also was the first one to sense Goku turning SSJ3 from otherworld. And even if he can't (though he can) surely he can just watch the performance of Pui Pui and compare it to himself, and was still scared by him. Pui Pui being around SSJ Android Arc Vegeta seems alright.

Beerus said that base saiyans are weaker than Freeza. Vegeta one-shotted him in his base. Pui Pui is trash, at least by the standards of anyone on Freeza's level.

He said that about a suppressed Goku.