Should Beerus replace Vegeta as Goku's rival?

[Kamiccolo9]

Also Vegeta would have won had Gohan not went Oozaru himself. So Vegeta was still superior as Kaioken Goku could't finish the job as it made Goku take more damage than damage dealt to Vegeta.

That's true but I said I wasn't including the Oozaru because it was never seen again. If Vegeta hadn't turned into the Oozaru then Goku would have won.

Goku could barely move, and all the Kaioken Kamehameha really did to Vegeta was piss him off. Vegeta would have slaughtered everyone if he hadn't turned into an Oozaru. The only reason he lost afterwards was because he had to lower his power to transform. Even then, he still almost won, and would have if it weren't for Gohan's tail just happening to grow back.

[TheGmGoken]

I'm talking about from when the rivalry started, Goku was already infront of Tenshinhan, Piccolo and Vegeta it wouldn't be like with Bills where he would actually be far behind for once.

Goku admitted that Vegeta was far above him. Isn't that why he didn't want Krillin to kill him? Goku was ahead of Vegeta when the rivalry started. Tien should be about equal to Goku when the rivalry started. Only time Goku was ahead when a rivalry started was when he met Krillin and Piccolo.

That's true but I said I wasn't including the Oozaru because it was never seen again. If Vegeta hadn't turned into the Oozaru then Goku would have won.

No he would't. Goku if anything was HURT from a slap from Yajoirbe. Vegeta was just angry. And went Oozaru. Had Vegeta not went Oozaru Goku would have been fucked. As Goku could't take a slap. Vegeta could have just ki blast his ass and Goku would have been KOed. So no Goku did not have a chance of winning. AT ALL

[Polyphase Avatron]

Well if he does I hope they don't do the thing where Goku becomes so strong that Bills becomes irrelevant and shunted into the background. I hate that.

[RandomGuy96]

Wasn't this supposed to be the whole point of Uub?

[TheGmGoken]

Wasn't this supposed to be the whole point of Uub?

Pretty sure by now everyone forgot about Oob . Honestly won't be shocked if some things gets changed about Oob.

[TheMightyOzaru]

You know Goku can have 2 rivals right? There's no need to replace Vegeta. Beerus also isn't much of a rival with him being a good deal superior. Vegeta and Goku are equals despite SSJ3.

Well Tenshinhan was probably still Goku's rival by the time Piccolo Jr was but I'm talking about a primary rival. Bills being superior is why he'd make a good rival, it'd be someone for Goku to catch up to and Bills not wanting it to happen.

Vegeta and Goku may be equals from base to SSJ2 but then with Goku's SSJ3 and now the SSJ God he makes Vegeta look like Krillin. Vegeta would need to obtain the same forms to catch up and I'd feel that would make the story repetitive as it'd been done. Vegeta is only ever going to play catch up and at least with Bills it'd be Goku playing catch up and unlike Vegeta would actually surpass his rival one day which would make it more interesting.

Goku's never had a rival stronger than himself.

The thing is, Goku and Vegeta being rivals makes more sense. They are the last of their kind and they can relate a lot better than of the other Z warriors can to Goku or Vegeta. I'm fairly certain Vegeta will get SSJ God too. It's just a matter of time.

[RandomGuy96]

Just like how he quickly got SS3?

[Insertclevername]

2. If we take filler into account then Goku had to play catch-up with Paikuhan. Goku had to play catch up to Jackie Chun.

Which we won't.

If you don't mind me asking, who are you to speak for everyone else and dismiss this members idea because of this unwritten rule about filler?

[Marco Polo]

Wasn't this supposed to be the whole point of Uub?

Uub is Goku's student, not rival. Goku was never Kame-sennin's rival, right?

[sintzu]

Just like how he quickly got SS3?

He has it and if we were to get something after the Majin Buu arc time skip DONE RIGHT we will see him use it but after watching battle of gods something done right will be the last thing we get if ever

[Kamiccolo9]

Just like how he quickly got SS3?

He has it and if we were to get something after the Majin Buu arc time skip DONE RIGHT we will see him use it but after watching battle of gods something done right will be the last thing we get if ever

Who says he has it? Provide evidence, please.

[Cursed Lemon]

This would work only if Vegeta resumes his place as the distant anti-hero who makes dramatic entrances.

[sintzu]

Just like how he quickly got SS3?

He has it and if we were to get something after the Majin Buu arc time skip DONE RIGHT we will see him use it but after watching battle of gods something done right will be the last thing we get if ever

Who says he has it? Provide evidence, please.

in the kanzenban ending he says he will show Goku defeat sooner or later wich would be imposible with ssj2

[Kamiccolo9]

in the kanzenban ending he says he will show Goku defeat sooner or later wich would be imposible with ssj2

So...no evidence then.

[hleV]

in the kanzenban ending he says he will show Goku defeat sooner or later wich would be imposible with ssj2

He actually says that he will show Goku defeat soon, rather than sooner or later.

[sintzu]

in the kanzenban ending he says he will show Goku defeat sooner or later wich would be imposible with ssj2

So...no evidence then.

[Bierhoff]

Vegeta will always be THE rival for Goku. Much like Piccolo was at the beginning, albeit for a short time.

But Goku has the ability to make anyone his friend, no matter who and the history.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Vegeta will always be THE rival for Goku. Much like Piccolo was at the beginning, albeit for a short time.

But Goku has the ability to make anyone his friend, no matter who and the history.

Except Frieza. And Cell.

[Bullza]

2. If we take filler into account then Goku had to play catch-up with Paikuhan. Goku had to play catch up to Jackie Chun.

Which we won't.

If you don't mind me asking, who are you to speak for everyone else and dismiss this members idea because of this unwritten rule about filler?

Because it's irrelevant.

[VegettoEX]

Because it's irrelevant.

It may be to you, but it may not be to everyone else, or anyone else in particular.

You do not get to dictate other folks' feelings or discussion contributions. If you plan on being rude and dismissive, you can find another community to be a part of.