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Post by supersaiyanguru » Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:16 am

True, but with a god's eyes(Like how kami and dende look over the lookout and see all the crazy stuff that happens) instead of complaining about it, goku could just hop down and destroy the threat. Hey, was the room that took the humans to the saiyan homeworld filler? If not, goku could use that at his convienience!

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Post by Son Goku » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:00 am

supersaiyanguru wrote:True, but with a god's eyes(Like how kami and dende look over the lookout and see all the crazy stuff that happens) instead of complaining about it, goku could just hop down and destroy the threat. Hey, was the room that took the humans to the saiyan homeworld filler? If not, goku could use that at his convienience!
You mean, going back in time to a point where the threat was weaker than he was?

(Ex. Killing Gero before his Cell project gets far enough along, killing Bibidi at a point where he was weak, Killing Raditz when he was a baby)
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Post by veshira » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:50 am

Goku wouldn't go back and kill a helpless person, or a person who didn't do anything wrong yet. Maybe I'm thinking of a dub line, but Goku said he wouldn't hurt someone who didn't do something wrong yet when Trunks first came back in time. :?
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Post by supersaiyanguru » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:10 am

Actually, didn't kami get some kind of premonitions about the saiyans, androids,etc? Well, goku might as well, and besides, he would have known that they were bad people, since they had already killed people. This would make a cool fanfic. And no, that line was in the manga. Oh, Ididn't mean ruthlessly kill them. I had meant for goku to use it as training.

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Post by Son Goku » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:59 am

veshira wrote:Goku wouldn't go back and kill a helpless person, or a person who didn't do anything wrong yet. Maybe I'm thinking of a dub line, but Goku said he wouldn't hurt someone who didn't do something wrong yet when Trunks first came back in time. :?
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Post by future_trunks » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:50 pm

Well, maybe Goku could go back in time and wait for Radditz to kill someone and then jump up from behind a bush or something. :D
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Post by Son Goku » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:15 pm

future_trunks wrote:Well, maybe Goku could go back in time and wait for Radditz to kill someone and then jump up from behind a bush or something. :D
Many years earlier...

Raditz: "Yes! I have killed my first victim! I am now an official Saiya-jin warrior!!!"

(Goku knocks him over the head with a baseball bat, throws him into a sack, wacks the bag with the baseball bat as many times as he can, looks both ways, and runs back to the present.)

Nah, I don't think he's THAT violent...
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Post by supersaiyanguru » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:43 am

Or maybe, as I was trying to suggest, he could go train in the past, get his rear handed to him, come back to the present, eat a senzu, get the zenkai, get stronger and stronger to the point where he wouldn't have to worry about the saiyans or anyone else.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:48 am

supersaiyanguru wrote:Or maybe, as i was trying to suggest, he could go train in the past, get his rear handed to him, come back to the present, eat a senzu, get the zenkai, get stronger and stronger to the point where he wouldn't have to worry about the saiyans or anyone else.
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Post by supersaiyanguru » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:49 pm

Sorry, I didn't mean to do that. But could I be on to something here? Goku could have gained a lot of power by doing this.

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Post by desirecampbell » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:18 am

supersaiyanguru wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to do that. But could I be on to something here? Goku could have gained a lot of power by doing this.
Meh, I doubt he'd gain anything from such a position. There's nothing to suggest that being kami grants you immortality, or timetravel (unless I missed that part).

Except for living in the palace, and maybe that 'see the world' thing, there seems to be no reason why Goku'd become kami.

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Post by supersaiyanguru » Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:40 pm

Now that I think of it, wouldn't goku only be mentally fighting people? He wouldn't get the zenkai at all. Besides, would changing things in the past(like killing radditz as a baby) make any difference?
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Post by veshira » Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:55 pm

supersaiyanguru wrote:Now that I think of it, wouldn't goku only be mentally fighting people? He wouldn't get the zenkai at all. Besides, would changing things in the past(like killing radditz as a baby) make any difference?
Not to his timeline, but possibly in the other.

Actually, didn't Kami's time traveling room send you to a "copy" of the past, shere you couldn't actually change the past because it wasn't the real one? Or is this a different room that was used than in the Saiyajin arc by Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chaotsu, and Kuririn? I know a room similar to this was used by Goku in Dragonball to visit young Kamesennin and his old master (Mutaito?), but I don't really know what was going on since I didn't see all of the episodes.
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Post by Neon Z » Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:41 pm

I lean towards the former, as he mentioned the Elixir to Goku and Bulma in the 3rd Chapter and he would have had no reason to say it then.
Didn't he mention a phoenix to Goku and Bulma(but then the turtle reminded him that the Immortal Phoenix had died from poison)? I don't think he said anything about an exilir.

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Post by Sebastian (SB) » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:04 pm

Yeah, Muten-Roshi was gonna ask the Immortal Phoenix to grant immortality to Son Goku & Bulma. The exlir I was believe was something Muten-Roshi took himself which was mentioned around the Piccolo Daimao arc or earlier. Though I do recall the anime (or one of the movies) possibly mentioning a exlir, which could explain the confusion.

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Post by supersaiyanguru » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:27 pm

Goku visits a young master roshi? Anyone got the episode number?
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Post by veshira » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:05 pm

supersaiyanguru wrote:Goku visits a young master roshi? Anyone got the episode number?
I think it was a couple of episodes, maybe three episodes?

Well, one of them is #129, The Time Room (Son Goku, the Time Traveler). Thanks, Wikipedia! :D
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Post by supersaiyanguru » Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:41 pm

I forgot all about that. Stopped watching dragonball after the red ribbon saga, and only saw the last 5 episodes or so of the ma junior fight.
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