Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by TVfan721 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:19 pm

I'm really happy to see that this thread is existing without any fighting or flaming.

10 years ago, this thread would never have been allowed to exist, it would've caused a gigantic shit storm. The online DBZ community has definitely matured and come a long way over the years.

As for the topic at hand, Goku's voice. Sorry but I just don't think it works for an adult Goku. (She was fine for kid Goku though)

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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:27 pm

I'm starting to think the Oozaru effect on screams was under used on Goku. Every other saiyan had a decent amount. Not Goku though.....

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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by Metalwario64 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:50 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:I'm starting to think the Oozaru effect on screams was under used on Goku. Every other saiyan had a decent amount. Not Goku though.....
What Oozaru effect?
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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:50 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:I'm starting to think the Oozaru effect on screams was under used on Goku. Every other saiyan had a decent amount. Not Goku though.....
What Oozaru effect?
Ever heard a Saiyan scream?

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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by Metalwario64 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:55 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
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TheGmGoken wrote:I'm starting to think the Oozaru effect on screams was under used on Goku. Every other saiyan had a decent amount. Not Goku though.....
What Oozaru effect?
Ever heard a Saiyan scream?
Never heard an Oozaru sound. Even just referenced Vegeta turning SS in Japanese, and I don't hear it here either.
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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:01 pm

Metalwario64 wrote: Never heard an Oozaru sound. Even just referenced Vegeta turning SS in Japanese, and I don't hear it here either.
As I said. They didn't ALWAYS have them. I said the other cast had a DECENT amount. You never had a Saiyan scream with an Oozaru sound effect behind it?

Gohan had the most, follow but Vegeta, Then Trunks(Future), then Goku, then the Kids.

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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by Metalwario64 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:10 pm

I've only ever heard what sounds like very heavy reverb. I noticed it prominently when Vegeta fought 18. Can't be what you're talking about because I heard the effect on Piccolo on a filler Saiyan arc training episode when he was meditating.
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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:18 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:I've only ever heard what sounds like very heavy reverb. I noticed it prominently when Vegeta fought 18. Can't be what you're talking about because I heard the effect on Piccolo on a filler Saiyan arc training episode when he was meditating.
I hear it a lot. Most of the time when a Saiyan Screams I hear it.

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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by Ringworm128 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:20 pm

I've always thought the way they just put an echo filter for the Great Apes was kind of lazy/cheap.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:30 pm

Oh yeah, they had Nozawa screaming as Golden Oozaru Goku in GT, something they didn't have for Oozaru in DB/Z. It didn't sound very good...
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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by Ringworm128 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:47 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:So people like her Tullece but not her Bardock? I admit that one surprises me quite a bit. After all, they're both basically evil clones of Goku. So why does the former work and not the latter?
Well personally I don't think Tullece having Goku's voice is that necessary either, but I suppose it comes to the fact Bardok seems to be a "grrrrrr tough as nails" type so a more harder deeper voice would probably make sense to more people. Where as Tullece seems more like a black hat villain so a more high pitch voice isn't that unfitting. Bardok with a high pitch voice could possibly come across as comical, sort of like the evil dog from Up.

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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by B » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:10 pm

ringworm128 wrote:I've always thought the way they just put an echo filter for the Great Apes was kind of lazy/cheap.
There's no telling what television mojo-jojo was performed, but way back during the Battle of Gods promotional train, there was a Hoko x Tate TV special, where you see DB's sound effect specialist Hidenori Arai literally scream into a garbage can, and that's the noise they used for the Oozaru/Great Apes.
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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by Looneygamemaster » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:34 pm

Lest we think that Funimation's the only company that can write poorly, anyone remember that bizarre scene during Gohan's training with Piccolo where he suddenly tries to play Shiratori with him? What the heck was up with that?

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Post by Roland_ELoG » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:08 pm

Looneygamemaster wrote:Lest we think that Funimation's the only company that can write poorly, anyone remember that bizarre scene during Gohan's training with Piccolo where he suddenly tries to play Shiratori with him? What the heck was up with that?
He's a huge nerd. Shiritori is a school game, and Gohan wants nothing more than to be a huge nerd in school.
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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by Ringworm128 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:11 pm

Yeah but it just seems so random. Maybe it's a cultural thing but honestly I think there's a reason Funi never used that dialogue even in Kai.

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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:18 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Oh yeah, they had Nozawa screaming as Golden Oozaru Goku in GT, something they didn't have for Oozaru in DB/Z. It didn't sound very good...
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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by Akumaito Beam » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:24 am

A lot of the issues I'm thinking of are more general problems with the anime itself.

I guess I really don't care for the majority of the insert songs.

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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:46 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Oh yeah, they had Nozawa screaming as Golden Oozaru Goku in GT, something they didn't have for Oozaru in DB/Z. It didn't sound very good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Abmj_ZxAk4
Oh god. I completely FORGOT about that. That's definitely something I'm not a fan of. It may be something I could have gotten used to if that was how an oozaru had sounded from the get go, because between Goku and Gohan, there would have been a handful of times to get used to that sound for it. But it just happening this one time...it's jarring as hell and...yeah...it...just sounds terrible.
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Post by tronk21 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:13 pm

I guess I dislike the actress that voices Erasa (Ereeza) for her performance as Uub in the 28th Tenkaichi Budoukai. Sorry but I'm too lazy right now to check the seiyuu's name. Anyway, I don't think she suceeds in making the two characters sound different. Whenever I watch the last 2 episodes of DBZ, I wonder if Gokuu is fighting Gohan's former classmate or what. I don't mind a woman voicing a character that is a child, but I think she could've handled that performance better (just look at Nozawa and Tanaka as an example of perfectly playing children back in 1986). It's hard to explain properly why I dislike the initial Uub voice. I just do. There's a redeeming quality in all this however, and that is Uub not being that important a character.
The point is that I struggled really hard to think of something that I don't like about the Japanese version and I'm glad I at least found something (as minor as it is).

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Re: Things you Dislike about the Japanese version.

Post by Shiyonasan » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:58 pm

The only thing I don't really like about the Japanese version is Chibi Trunks' voice in the Buu arc. I understand wanting to be consistent by having the same voice actor, but Kusao's voice as chibi Trunks' just sounds strange to me. I would've preferred a female voice actress for that role.

I can also agree about the spoilerific episode title names. It's only excusable in the sense that the people watching the anime at the time it aired in Japan probably knew what was going to happen anyway because of reading the manga beforehand.

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