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Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:15 pm

from Wikipedia (yeah i know)

"Son Goku from Dragon Ball Z can be considered a homage to Superman. Though key aspects of their stories are different, Goku and Superman are still some of the sole survivors of their homeworlds. Akira Toriyama even admitted that Goku was based off of Superman at that point, since he got the idea for Saiyans from Superman II."

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:19 pm

Goku and Superman are very alike but I dont know if Akira Toriyama actually saw Superman II and made Goku an alien. Its possible, but theres no proof so.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:23 pm

I've herd no interview from Toriyama even mentioning Superman.

Plus, if Toriyama saw Superman II he'd have Vegeta defeated by throwing platic wrap on him

Superman is so popular, and so old, that he can be seen as the basis of many fictional stories.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:44 pm

Considering Superman 2 came out in 1980 and Saiyans were'nt introduced till '89. I guess it "is" possible.

Ricochet0082 · Post by **Ricochet0082** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:07 pm

When you compare the two, there is one similarity. Both Goku and Superman must deal with three members of their own race who are trying to take over the world. That's the closest similiarity that I can think of, aside from both being aliens and with abilities not of this planet.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:12 pm

Ricochet0082 wrote:When you compare the two, there is one similarity. Both Goku and Superman must deal with three members of their own race who are trying to take over the world. That's the closest similiarity that I can think of, aside from both being aliens and with abilities not of this planet.

Both were sent away as babies from their home planet right before it was destroyed in a pod and both ended up on Earth and both were then found, adopted, and raised by someone as their own.

Ricochet0082 · Post by **Ricochet0082** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:13 pm

Wow, I can't believe I missed that one. Thanks, Jerseymilk.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:22 pm

Ricochet0082 wrote:Wow, I can't believe I missed that one. Thanks, Jerseymilk.

Noooooo problem.

Caracal · Post by **Caracal** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:03 pm

I once saw a flash or YTMND that showed a fair number of simularities between the two, such as the heroes fighting the villian responsible for destroying their home planet - Freeza and Brainiac.

Ricochet0082 · Post by **Ricochet0082** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:17 pm

Brainiac destroying Krypton is not the original reason for the planet's destruction. There are many different reasons for the end of Krypton such as the sun orbiting Krypton going nova or the planet's core exploding. Is the Brainiac version from the cartoon?

But going back to DBZ, yeah, Goku did fight the person responsible for his home world's destruction - Freeza.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:24 pm

Ricochet0082 wrote:Brainiac destroying Krypton is not the original reason for the planet's destruction. There are many different reasons for the end of Krypton such as the sun orbiting Krypton going nova or the planet's core exploding. Is the Brainiac version from the cartoon?

But going back to DBZ, yeah, Goku did fight the person responsible for his home world's destruction - Freeza.

You're right, the origin of Superman that includes Brainiac as the HAL of Krypton (subsequently allowing it's destruction, not actually causing it) only exists in the Superman animated series, which was made after DragonBall Z ended.

Majin Cell · Post by **Majin Cell** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:16 pm

While there are similarities between Goku and Superman, i believe that there are more differences between them. As was said earlier Superman is so old and popular that his story could have easily influenced other characters stories.

Maphisto86 · Post by **Maphisto86** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:54 am

desirecampbell wrote:Plus, if Toriyama saw Superman II he'd have Vegeta defeated by throwing platic wrap on him

Perfect idea for a Dragonball fanmanga spoof!

I also just thought of the Family Guy episode where the question everyone was asking is brought up.

Anyways... I'm sure the idea was at least in part inspired by Superman. Akira Toryiama had a Superman look alike character called "Supa Man" in his Dr. Slump manga by the way.

"It's a bird! It's a plane! No it's a kid on a cloud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:54 pm

Caracal wrote:I once saw a flash or YTMND that showed a fair number of simularities between the two, such as the heroes fighting the villian responsible for destroying their home planet - Freeza and Brainiac.

http://supergoku.ytmnd.com/

Anyway, Superman originally came out in the 30s. Many many shows, comics, and books have had some kind of influence from him. Even the basic idea of what a super hero is supposed to look like is derived from Superman.

Heck, on the top of my bookshelf, I have action figured of Goku, Superman, and Optimus Prime posed together, because as far as fictional characters go, IMHO they are the greatest heroes.

Kanzenshuu

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