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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:20 am

Well, yeah, but I'd say that leap in logic occurred the second Goku threw his ki at him and kept the limbless guy alive with it. Never thought that made any sense. Besides the fact that, up until now, throwing ki at someone seriously *hurt* that person, it also seems to completely invalidate senzu or any other healing item or device. I mean, just throw ki at someone. It'll stabilize any wound, including, apparently, losing half of your body, and you have a nigh-inexhaustible supply in most cases.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Storm » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:11 am

Throwing ki is just another way to transfer it. Just earlier Gohan and Kuririn were doing the same to Piccolo.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thatdbzguy » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:17 pm

I like Future Trunks and how he easily destroyed Freeza and King Cold.

I also like Perfect Cell and the Cyborg/Cell saga.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:39 pm

thatdbzguy wrote:I like Future Trunks and how he easily destroyed Freeza and King Cold.

I also like Perfect Cell and the Cyborg/Cell saga.
Don't start that shit again.

Also, liking Perfect Cell isn't unpopular. He's the most popular incarnation of Cell even if people here are (now) ragging on him. He's not my favorite though but at least he's not Fat Majin Boo.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Storm » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:40 pm

I've always seen the Android/Cell arc as the most popular one in the American Dragon Ball fandom, but I'm not sure if that's just including dub fans.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:46 pm

I don't know if I mentioned it in this thread, but I preferred even season 3 Schemmel over Kelamis.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thatdbzguy » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:56 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
thatdbzguy wrote:I like Future Trunks and how he easily destroyed Freeza and King Cold.

I also like Perfect Cell and the Cyborg/Cell saga.
Don't start that shit again.

Also, liking Perfect Cell isn't unpopular. He's the most popular incarnation of Cell even if people here are (now) ragging on him. He's not my favorite though but at least he's not Fat Majin Boo.
I stated opinions that were unpopular here, not in general.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:01 pm

Fat Buu is a much better villain than Perfect Cell.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:07 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Fat Buu is a much better villain than Perfect Cell.
Fat Boo was a villain? Always thought of him as Someone who was not good or evil.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:16 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Fat Buu is a much better villain than Perfect Cell.
Fat Boo was a villain? Always thought of him as Someone who was not good or evil.
He blew up 1/10 of the Earth and murdered millions if not billions of people. He's an anti-villain though.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Weejus » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:40 pm

This is more of an unpopular opinion among Kanzenshuu members: I don't hate FUNimation. *insert gif of all the Metacoolers (representing the many FUNi haters among the Kanzenshuu ranks) running towards Goku and Vegeta (representing the few who like FUNi)*

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:42 pm

Weejus wrote:This is more of an unpopular opinion among Kanzenshuu members: I don't hate FUNimation. *insert gif of all the Metacoolers (representing the many FUNi haters among the Kanzenshuu ranks) running towards Goku and Vegeta (representing the few who like FUNi)*
Wait.....hold the phone. People here HATE Funimation!? What!? WHY!? You sure you're not confusing them for hating Funimation's treatment of DBZ? That Funimation the company?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Weejus » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:43 pm

I swear I remember someone saying Gen Fukunaga kills puppies on here a while back. As much as FUNi bastardised and cash-cowed DBZ, that's a bold statement.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:45 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Fat Buu is a much better villain than Perfect Cell.
Burglars make better villains than Fat Buu. At least they're not cheap bastards (some are though) who recycle previous concepts. :P

As you can tell I didn't like Fat Buu much as a villain.
He blew up 1/10 of the Earth and murdered millions if not billions of people. He's an anti-villain though.
So... basically less than Vegeta?
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:46 pm

Well that's not really fair. Vegeta is Vegeta, he exterminated multiple civilizations. By that logic Cell was less of a villain than Vegeta.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Storm » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:51 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:You sure you're not confusing them for hating Funimation's treatment of DBZ? That Funimation the company?
Given that this is a Dragon Ball forum, the line is pretty blurred in that regard.

But FUNi does consistently release the most reasonably priced DVDs/BRs. Fuck Aniplex.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:00 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Well that's not really fair. Vegeta is Vegeta, he exterminated multiple civilizations. By that logic Cell was less of a villain than Vegeta.
Cell ate his villains, Blew up islands, killed main characters, and destroyed the military. Not only that but Cell died

Not one
not two
but THREE times :lol:
Weejus wrote:I swear I remember someone saying Gen Fukunaga kills puppies on here a while back. As much as FUNi bastardised and cash-cowed DBZ, that's a bold statement.
There you go
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:23 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Fat Buu is a much better villain than Perfect Cell.
Fat Boo was a villain? Always thought of him as Someone who was not good or evil.
He blew up 1/10 of the Earth and murdered millions if not billions of people. He's an anti-villain though.
One could argue that Buu doesn't exactly have free will at that point. His creator was evil and he created Buu to do evil, so he's evil as evil implies choice.

Treatment of DBZ notwithstanding, FUNi's a pretty good company.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:19 pm

Storm wrote:Throwing ki is just another way to transfer it. Just earlier Gohan and Kuririn were doing the same to Piccolo.
There's a difference between bolstering one's spiritual energy with your own (although even that came out of the nowhere) and suddenly and instantly making it so the dying guy doesn't really need the lower half of his body anymore to survive. There's a BIG difference, and the implications are huge! I mean, if it's that easy, why didn't Goku just throw some ki on Vegeta while he was monologuing himself to death?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Black_Liger » Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:17 pm

I liked Battle of Z quite a lot o.o
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