"Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:09 pm

Zantetsuken wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Yes he did. He talks about "those stupid poses" to Goku inside Buu's body, and was aware of Gotenks' existence.
Seeing it and knowing it are two different things. Ask Trunks and Goten.
Piccolo was capable of doing the poses after seeing Goku do them, and in the anime and movies, which you seem to cite when they don't contradict the manga, Vegeta is capable of the performing the dance. In M12 he uses it just fine, and in GT he even suggests it.
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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by MDSTSSJ » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:10 am

Darkprince410 wrote: Besides, the official bio for Gohan from Battle of the Gods says that he's stronger than any pure Saiya-jin up to the start of the movie, so again it's a situation of you can't have your cake and eat it too.
You're forgetting something my friend! The Gohan's profile does not apply to Kakarotto ( although it is a pure Saiya-jin ) because he has an immeasurable ( unlimited ) latent power.

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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by MDSTSSJ » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:15 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Granted if Gohan or Gotenks took on Kid Buu, the little Majin would get crushed.
Mmm Pure Boo could wipe out SSJ3 Gotenks in a blink of an eye. Gotenks is too overconfident and a complete moron. If Gohan don't gets serious, probably would have the same final!
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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:17 am

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KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Granted if Gohan or Gotenks took on Kid Buu, the little Majin would get crushed.
Mmm Pure Boo wipe out SSJ3 Gotenks in a blink of an eye. If Gohan don't gets serious, probably would have the same final!
When did Pure Boo wipe out SSj3 Gotenks? :eh:

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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:20 am

I think he's saying Kid Boo would wipe out Gotenks :lol:

And I'd like to know how.
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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by MDSTSSJ » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:21 am

TheGmGoken wrote:
MDSTSSJ wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Granted if Gohan or Gotenks took on Kid Buu, the little Majin would get crushed.
Mmm Pure Boo wipe out SSJ3 Gotenks in a blink of an eye. If Gohan don't gets serious, probably would have the same final!
When did Pure Boo wipe out SSj3 Gotenks? :eh:
Never!! but Gotenks is so stupid and overconfident that he could lose.

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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by MDSTSSJ » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:29 am

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:I think he's saying Kid Boo would wipe out Gotenks :lol:

And I'd like to know how.
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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by Zantetsuken » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:33 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
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Kamiccolo9 wrote:Yes he did. He talks about "those stupid poses" to Goku inside Buu's body, and was aware of Gotenks' existence.
Seeing it and knowing it are two different things. Ask Trunks and Goten.
Piccolo was capable of doing the poses after seeing Goku do them, and in the anime and movies, which you seem to cite when they don't contradict the manga, Vegeta is capable of the performing the dance. In M12 he uses it just fine, and in GT he even suggests it.
The boys failed the first time they tried it, in fact, everyone does apparently; According to fusion reborn, Goku has to teach Vegeta how to do it and they failed the first time.
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Darkprince410 wrote: Besides, the official bio for Gohan from Battle of the Gods says that he's stronger than any pure Saiya-jin up to the start of the movie, so again it's a situation of you can't have your cake and eat it too.
You're forgetting something my friend! The Gohan's profile does not apply to Kakarotto ( although it is a pure Saiya-jin ) because he has an immeasurable ( unlimited ) latent power.
No he just quoted Gohan's bio wrong - there has been a lot of that going on lately.

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Post by Zantetsuken » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:36 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:I think he's saying Kid Boo would wipe out Gotenks :lol:

And I'd like to know how.
He's right - the story indicates that both Gohan and Gotenks were needed to "fight" buu. Not beat, not defeat.

Judging from my numbers, it would be probably just as bad as Vegeta's asskicking. And even though Gohan was stronger, he would fair worse. He's an idiot too.

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:43 pm

Yes. Goku was excited about the idea of having 2 weaklings fight against an enemy way stronger than the both of them. It all makes sense now! It's not like Goku didn't just admit a team attack is useless if the enemy is much stronger some chapters back....
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Post by Zantetsuken » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:50 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Yes. Goku was excited about the idea of having 2 weaklings fight against an enemy way stronger than the both of them. It all makes sense now! It's not like Goku didn't just admit a team attack is useless if the enemy is much stronger some chapters back....
Sounds legit.

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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:56 pm

Would Kid Boo survive the Zantetsuken?
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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by Zantetsuken » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:37 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Would Kid Boo survive the Zantetsuken?
Whoa...that is a good question.

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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:53 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Would Kid Boo survive the Zantetsuken?
It would probably miss him. I tend to have that happen a lot. The Gungnir is a much better option.
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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by hleV » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:49 pm

Zantetsuken can be compared Kienzan, so yes, Boo can, and will survive that. Not that the question was serious, but it's still better than questioning Gotenks & Gohan's obvious superiority to Pure Boo.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:20 pm

hleV wrote:Zantetsuken can be compared Kienzan, so yes, Boo can, and will survive that. Not that the question was serious, but it's still better than questioning Gotenks & Gohan's obvious superiority to Pure Boo.
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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by Darkprince410 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:22 pm

Zantetsuken wrote:^LOL, ok.
It is funny when you think of how easy it would be for them to beat him.

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Post by Zantetsuken » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:51 pm

If by "beat", you mean "lose" then I agree.

That's why it would take 2 of them to fight one person. Because you know, DBZ totally does that for when 2 stronger characters want to fight one weaker one.

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:55 pm

I'm going to do an Ultimate Gohan/Gotenks Vs Kid Boo CPU grudge match tonight in various games. I'll let you guys know the score.

*Yes, I understand that video games aren't canon, but I just want to see the outcome regardless*
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Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Post by Zantetsuken » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:56 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:I'm going to do an Ultimate Gohan/Gotenks Vs Kid Boo CPU grudge match tonight in various games. I'll let you guys know the score.

*Yes, I understand that video games aren't canon, but I just want to see the outcome regardless*
KidBuu by KO. Calling it - both of them at the same time.

You should also do one for Vegeta vs Buu and Goku Vs Buu.

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