Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Jackal puFF » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:07 pm

I'd say. As soon as I heard Yamamoto's score was plagiarized. I knew what was going to go down. So I bought all the kai sets that were out at the time. It's a super shame part 5 didn't make that cut.

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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:08 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:I'm lucky enough to have all the episodes broadcast with Yamamoto's score and I have to say, it's absolutely worth it.

I find it very hard to watch Kai with the Kikuchi replacement now.
Same...it just feels so weird...I hope the new score is good though.
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Blade » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:50 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:The Kikuchi tracks in Kai sounded better than from Dragon Box's audio quality but that's due to the muffled noise it has otherwise it wouldn't really be any different, and it's not remastered they just specifically picked the ones that were in stereo.
As Kei said, they are the remastered versions. Remastering isn't about replacing, it's the process of refining and restoring. More or less all of Kikuchi's score for Dragonball was digitally remastered in the early 2000's ahead of its release on CD (which I have to say, as someone involved in Music Production professionally, are very good), and as such the Kikuchi score used in Kai is sourced from these remasters.

They exist in a muffled quality in mono on the Dragonboxes due to the fact that the master tapes for the audio were not retained by Toei, and what currently exists is a digital copy of a copy that was stored in a lossy optical format.
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:41 pm

I know that they were from the DBZ Compilation, and I forgot that the synthesised ones were a remake not a remaster but still, Dragon Ball Kai with Kikuchi's music is absolutely terrible.

I'll at least give props to the last two episodes with the Kikuchi music though it's no surprise because they were most likely the first eps to be replaced with it.
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by samuraix123 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:37 am

To me it was definitely worth it. I own Parts 1 & 2 on Blu-ray and parts 3 & 4 on DVD with Yamamoto. and somewhere in my brain I couldn't stand the thought of not having the rest with that score. Luckily I found a place to download the remaining episodes with English and Yamamoto. :) I'm hoping one day they'll re-release Kai with the original soundtrack but until then I'm hanging on to this. But yeah I really like the score a-lot. :D
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by JEFFMAN219 » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:00 pm

Yamamoto score is overrated in my opinion. I watch dbz kai for the story and action so I could care less about the music playing in the background.

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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Eight-Star Dragon » Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:34 pm

I think Yamamoto's score is definitely worth it. It's part of what makes Kai, Kai for me. Without it, it feels a lot less fresh and a lot more like Dragon Ball Z (if that makes any sense).

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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by samuraix123 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:07 am

Eight-Star Dragon wrote:I think Yamamoto's score is definitely worth it. It's part of what makes Kai, Kai for me. Without it, it feels a lot less fresh and a lot more like Dragon Ball Z (if that makes any sense).
No, That makes perfect sense and I agree! :) With the Yamamoto score it had that new feel to it.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:44 pm

I loved Yamamoto's score. Very modern sounding and it reminded me of the Budokai games.
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Flame Dragon » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:49 am

samuraix123 wrote:
Eight-Star Dragon wrote:I think Yamamoto's score is definitely worth it. It's part of what makes Kai, Kai for me. Without it, it feels a lot less fresh and a lot more like Dragon Ball Z (if that makes any sense).
No, That makes perfect sense and I agree! :) With the Yamamoto score it had that new feel to it.
Well Kai English dub still feels fresh to me with Kikuchi since the original had Faulconer.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:30 pm

I've never heard the Yamamoto score but after reading this I really want too. I currently only own S2 and it's my belief that all the season sets contains this Kukuchi (sp) fellows score. Correct?
Is there any way to legitimately own the Yamamoto score for S3 &4?

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:45 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I've never heard the Yamamoto score but after reading this I really want too. I currently only own S2 and it's my belief that all the season sets contains this Kukuchi (sp) fellows score. Correct?
Is there any way to legitimately own the Yamamoto score for S3 &4?
Season 3 and Season 4 are Cyborg arc correct? If that's the case then you can't unless you use Amazon or Ebay that has the JPN audio only...

Edit: On the good side you can find the parts with Yamamoto score on Amazing and Ebay :thumbup:
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:56 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I've never heard the Yamamoto score but after reading this I really want too. I currently only own S2 and it's my belief that all the season sets contains this Kukuchi (sp) fellows score. Correct?
Is there any way to legitimately own the Yamamoto score for S3 &4?
Season 3 and Season 4 are Cyborg arc correct? If that's the case then you can't unless you use Amazon or Ebay that has the JPN audio only...
Aww man not a Jap Dub fan myself.
Oh well since I haven't heard it, I don't know what I'm missing so I'll keep that way.
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by kei17 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:03 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Aww man not a Jap Dub fan myself.
You should not call the original Japanese version a dub. It's not really a dub. Also, as a Japanese, I'm quite uncomfortable with the word Jap.

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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Fionordequester » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:34 pm

kei17 wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Aww man not a Jap Dub fan myself.
You should not call the original Japanese version a dub. It's not really a dub. Also, as a Japanese, I'm quite uncomfortable with the word Jap.
But it is a dub really, technically. Just looking at the time where the dialogue is totally out of sync with the mouth flaps is proof enough of that.
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:12 pm

Fionordequester wrote:
kei17 wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Aww man not a Jap Dub fan myself.
You should not call the original Japanese version a dub. It's not really a dub. Also, as a Japanese, I'm quite uncomfortable with the word Jap.
But it is a dub really, technically. Just looking at the time where the dialogue is totally out of sync with the mouth flaps is proof enough of that.
Most people prefer to it being called original audio. That's what I say on here. But normally I say Original Dub. Make sense IMO.
In anime/animation dubbing, it is basically new voice-overs by a cast that are not the original voice actors in different languages than the source language.
So in a way technically both me and you wrong and Kei is right....

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Post by Fionordequester » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:42 pm

Fair enough.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:41 am

kei17 wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Aww man not a Jap Dub fan myself.
You should not call the original Japanese version a dub. It's not really a dub. Also, as a Japanese, I'm quite uncomfortable with the word Jap.
I understand it's a dub per say but I just prefer calling the Japanese track dub. I apologize if any offence was inferred from me using Jap instead of Japanese.

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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by AgitoZ » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:06 pm

The only problem with calling the original Japanese a "dub" is that it's usually not called that because of how it was made. It's usually called a "dub" because people want to put it on the same level as any other dub.
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Fionordequester » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:36 pm

AgitoZ wrote:The only problem with calling the original Japanese a "dub" is that it's usually not called that because of how it was made. It's usually called a "dub" because people want to put it on the same level as any other dub.
I understand. But even though I'm a dub fan even of DBZ, that's not where I'm coming from, don't worry about it.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".

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