Overrated how? He was just an asskicking in a body - Just because he didn't transform and do something Goofy doesn't make him a bad villain.
Again, I liked him - he's exactly the scariest type of villain. Big, imposing and unreasonable.
Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated
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It literally took a half Super Saiyan God to beat Broly. Broly is probably at least Super Boo tier
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So injured, beaten, tried SSJ1 Goku + the ki of the beaten and exhausted SSJ1 Trunks, SSJ1 Vegeta, SSJ1 Gohan, and Cell saga Piccolo somehow equals half of SSJG, which is far beyond the combined ki of (healthy, rested) SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, Chou Gohan, SSJ1 Trunks, and SSJ1 Goten? Remember when they tried it without Pan Goku just got a generic powerup which was useless.Kingsley wrote:It literally took a half Super Saiyan God to beat Broly. Broly is probably at least Super Boo tier
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Zantetsuken wrote:Overrated how?
Kingsley wrote:It literally took a half Super Saiyan God to beat Broly. Broly is probably at least Super Boo tier
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated
Nah, Broly is as strong as Super VegettoPolyphase Avatron wrote:So injured, beaten, tried SSJ1 Goku + the ki of the beaten and exhausted SSJ1 Trunks, SSJ1 Vegeta, SSJ1 Gohan, and Cell saga Piccolo somehow equals half of SSJG, which is far beyond the combined ki of (healthy, rested) SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, Chou Gohan, SSJ1 Trunks, and SSJ1 Goten? Remember when they tried it without Pan Goku just got a generic powerup which was useless.Kingsley wrote:It literally took a half Super Saiyan God to beat Broly. Broly is probably at least Super Boo tier
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Re: Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated
He's obviously joking, dude.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Zantetsuken wrote:Overrated how?Kingsley wrote:It literally took a half Super Saiyan God to beat Broly. Broly is probably at least Super Boo tier
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated
RandomGuy96 wrote:He's obviously joking, dude.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Zantetsuken wrote:Overrated how?Kingsley wrote:It literally took a half Super Saiyan God to beat Broly. Broly is probably at least Super Boo tier
Yea I think he's joking. Hopefully......Kingsley wrote:Nah, Broly is as strong as Super VegettoPolyphase Avatron wrote:So injured, beaten, tried SSJ1 Goku + the ki of the beaten and exhausted SSJ1 Trunks, SSJ1 Vegeta, SSJ1 Gohan, and Cell saga Piccolo somehow equals half of SSJG, which is far beyond the combined ki of (healthy, rested) SSJ3 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, Chou Gohan, SSJ1 Trunks, and SSJ1 Goten? Remember when they tried it without Pan Goku just got a generic powerup which was useless.Kingsley wrote:It literally took a half Super Saiyan God to beat Broly. Broly is probably at least Super Boo tier
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Yeah, it's kinda obvious I'm joking. Broly is stronger than Bills, not Super Vegetto
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Oops, sorry! 
But my point still stands, since there are people that say such things... and they are dead serious.
But my point still stands, since there are people that say such things... and they are dead serious.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated
Yep. Remember that guy we had a while back who kept insisting Broly was stronger than SS3 Goku?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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SSJ3 Goku will job to Broly because he wants the little ones to fight Broly instead.RandomGuy96 wrote:Yep. Remember that guy we had a while back who kept insisting Broly was stronger than SS3 Goku?
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Re: Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated
Broli is both overrated and underrated at the same time.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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At least that's more realistic than having Broli above Boo, Gotenks, Vegetto, or even freaking SS4 Gogeta. But there is already enough evidence that Broli isn't that strong:RandomGuy96 wrote:Yep. Remember that guy we had a while back who kept insisting Broly was stronger than SS3 Goku?
M8 Broli was outclassed by the combined power of SS Goku, Piccolo, Gohan, Trunks, and Vegeta, with all of them in a beaten up condition. Assuming that the M8 Z-Senshi are as strong as they were in the Cell Games (I don't believe they are), this makes M8 LSS Broli weaker than Cell Games SS2 Gohan.
M10 Broli was far stronger than SS2 Gohan. However, his huge ki blast in the end was destroyed by the power of 3 Super Saiyans once he got distracted, and he eventually got pushed to the Sun. Once he died, SS2 Goku & Paikuhan combined were enough to beat him (we know that Goku didn't use SS3 from M12). So, this makes Broli stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Goku, but weaker than Super Saiyan 3 Goku.
Bio-Broli should be slightly stronger than Broli, since the normal Bio-Warriors were stronger than normal humans.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated
It's a fact they are Pre Cell Games level. M10 Broli > SSjin 2 Goku is debatable and Bio Broli 8s much weaker than the real Broli as he was overpowered by SSjins Trunks and Goten
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LSS Broli was massively stronger than SS2 Gohan, and since Goku said that he could use Fusion with Gohan, it means that Goku isn't massively stronger than Gohan.
As for Bio-Broli, the kids never managed to overpower him. All the good hits were surprise attacks (and remember when Piccolo used a surprise attack on 50% Final Form Freeza?). When Broli was ready to take the hits, he was taking them like 2nd Form Cell tanked #16's punch.
As for Bio-Broli, the kids never managed to overpower him. All the good hits were surprise attacks (and remember when Piccolo used a surprise attack on 50% Final Form Freeza?). When Broli was ready to take the hits, he was taking them like 2nd Form Cell tanked #16's punch.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated
For me, M8 Broli is beyond SSJ, almost SSJ2 level making him stronger than Normal Cell.
M10 Broli is obviously above a SSJ2 judging by the way he easily trashes Gohan.
I just wish the expanded on him a bit more...
M10 Broli is obviously above a SSJ2 judging by the way he easily trashes Gohan.
I just wish the expanded on him a bit more...
Re: Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated
Nope. M8 Broli is beyond USSJ Trunks and no match for Cell.Zantetsuken wrote:For me, M8 Broli is beyond SSJ, almost SSJ2 level making him stronger than Normal Cell.
M10 Broli is obviously above a SSJ2 judging by the way he easily trashes Gohan.
I just wish the expanded on him a bit more...
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Care to explain your opinion? Instead of just telling someone that THEIR opinion is wrong and treating your opinion as fact?Kakashi wrote:Nope. M8 Broli is beyond USSJ Trunks and no match for Cell.Zantetsuken wrote:For me, M8 Broli is beyond SSJ, almost SSJ2 level making him stronger than Normal Cell.
M10 Broli is obviously above a SSJ2 judging by the way he easily trashes Gohan.
I just wish the expanded on him a bit more...
Re: Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated
He also wanted to use fusion with Ultimate Gohan. The kids attacked him straightly. Dunno what you are talking aboutDBZGTKOSDH wrote:LSS Broli was massively stronger than SS2 Gohan, and since Goku said that he could use Fusion with Gohan, it means that Goku isn't massively stronger than Gohan.
As for Bio-Broli, the kids never managed to overpower him. All the good hits were surprise attacks (and remember when Piccolo used a surprise attack on 50% Final Form Freeza?). When Broli was ready to take the hits, he was taking them like 2nd Form Cell tanked #16's punch.
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http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8433898/1/TheGmGoken wrote:Care to explain your opinion? Instead of just telling someone that THEIR opinion is wrong and treating your opinion as fact?Kakashi wrote:Nope. M8 Broli is beyond USSJ Trunks and no match for Cell.Zantetsuken wrote:For me, M8 Broli is beyond SSJ, almost SSJ2 level making him stronger than Normal Cell.
M10 Broli is obviously above a SSJ2 judging by the way he easily trashes Gohan.
I just wish the expanded on him a bit more...