When did super saiyans stop being special to you? Did they?

[Barunks]

Gotenks kind of ruined Super Saiyan 3 for me to be honest, and Super Saiyan god just sounded like a gimmick.

[Blade]

Gotenks kind of ruined Super Saiyan 3 for me to be honest, and Super Saiyan god just sounded like a gimmick.

I gotta be honest with you, I don't even regard the God form as being a 'Super Saiyan' per say.

And that's not because I don't like the idea of it (which in honesty I don't) but because the mechanics behind it feel pretty detached from the established Super Saiyan logic, and that's messed up by anyone's standards if you consider Super Saiyan 4 to be a part of that.

[Duo]

Not sure on this. I'd probably say after the Cell arc, when the number of people doing it hit critical mass. The best moment it was ever used for was Trunks after discovering Gohan's corpse in the future.

Kaio-ken impresses me more nowadays, because it was more complicated than just being more powerful. The weight of bodily damage versus necessary power gain was just so interesting to me.

I've also grown more fond of the false Super Saiyan in Movie 4 over time, even if the rest of the film is weak. That scene convey's a very frightening/berserk type of power. It was cool.

[El Diabeetus]

Around when everybody started getting it. Super Saiyan 2 Bardock, is all that I will say. I understand giving him Super Saiyan, but after that, eh. Not so much.

[Duo]

Around when everybody started getting it. Super Saiyan 2 Bardock, is all that I will say. I understand giving him Super Saiyan, but after that, eh. Not so much.

I don't understand even giving him Super Saiyan. The character was the centerpiece of one the best pieces of story/animation the series ever got, how is that not enough? Is it necessary to make a character more powerful in order for them to be popular?

[El Diabeetus]

Around when everybody started getting it. Super Saiyan 2 Bardock, is all that I will say. I understand giving him Super Saiyan, but after that, eh. Not so much.

I don't understand even giving him Super Saiyan. The character was the centerpiece of one the best pieces of story/animation the series ever got, how is that not enough? Is it necessary to make a character more powerful in order for them to be popular?

I guess so. I, like you, would prefer he not even get Super Saiyan. But, it doesn't bother me that he has it. Giving him anything above seems completely ridiculous. But, I guess the tie in for Heroes will probably just result in him eventually getting Super Saiyan 3, 4 or even God.

[KentalSSJ6]

Around when everybody started getting it. Super Saiyan 2 Bardock, is all that I will say. I understand giving him Super Saiyan, but after that, eh. Not so much.

I don't understand even giving him Super Saiyan. The character was the centerpiece of one the best pieces of story/animation the series ever got, how is that not enough? Is it necessary to make a character more powerful in order for them to be popular?

Team Four Star kinda summed it up pretty well.

"And so, with a macabre flash of blinding light, the howling laugh of a blood-parched tyrant echoing through his mind, so ends the tragic fate of Bardock...or so you'd think, if you didn't know a thing about MERCHANDISING."

[Duo]

Around when everybody started getting it. Super Saiyan 2 Bardock, is all that I will say. I understand giving him Super Saiyan, but after that, eh. Not so much.

I don't understand even giving him Super Saiyan. The character was the centerpiece of one the best pieces of story/animation the series ever got, how is that not enough? Is it necessary to make a character more powerful in order for them to be popular?

I guess so. I, like you, would prefer he not even get Super Saiyan. But, it doesn't bother me that he has it. Giving him anything above seems completely ridiculous. But, I guess the tie in for Heroes will probably just result in him eventually getting Super Saiyan 3, 4 or even God.

The thing that's possibly even more irritating about it is the fact his design isn't new or interesting. It's Goku with a face scar wearing Saiyan armor.

How about a Super Saiyan God transformation for Cell? Now that would be something different.

Edit: or Majin Buu with Beerus absorbed. Screw logistics, that would look trippy as heck. I've got no fixation left on the various Super Saiyan stages, not sure why the fanbase cares to see Trunks and Broli as Super Saiyan 3's.

[El Diabeetus]

I would love to see those suggestions become reality. I designed a Boorus myself a copule of months ago and before a Yi Xing Long absorption. I would love to see more what-if characters in games like the Tencha fusion and custom absorptions.

[RandomGuy96]

I loved Budokai 2 for all the what-ifs. Tencha, Buuza, Buugeta, colored Saiba Rangers, Majin Cell, freaking Gokule. Super Saiyan forms are mega boring in comparison. I'd also like to see the other forms of Cooler, or a fifth form for Freeza.

[KentalSSJ6]

Dont forget this little guy.

[RandomGuy96]

I just can't get over the impossibility of that guy existing. He's a living violation of every fusion rule.

But yeah, I think the Super Saiyan forms are boring and the games should focus on more interesting what-ifs. Budokai 2 had a lot of good ones; what-if absorptions, what-if Majins, what-if fusion, and more.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I just can't get over the impossibility of that guy existing. He's a living violation of every fusion rule.

I guess he would be a failed Fusion, and super-weak.