Unpopular DB opinions

[thatdbzguy]

My unpopular opinion is that I don't have any major or even moderate gripes with DBZ like most fans do.

[Wibbs]

My unpopular opinion is that I don't have any major or even moderate gripes with DBZ like most fans do.

But didn't you start a huge thread talking about why DBZ was bad, which started out with a huge diatribe detailing what you though was bad bout it.

[thatdbzguy]

My unpopular opinion is that I don't have any major or even moderate gripes with DBZ like most fans do.

But didn't you start a huge thread talking about why DBZ was bad, which started out with a huge diatribe detailing what you though was bad bout it.

That was because I put everyone else's opinion on here above mine.

[baneofdemon22]

My unpopular opinion is that I don't have any major or even moderate gripes with DBZ like most fans do.

But didn't you start a huge thread talking about why DBZ was bad, which started out with a huge diatribe detailing what you though was bad bout it.

That was because I put everyone else's opinion on here above mine.

So you completely changed your mind? I'm happy for! That's great! Hopefully, you're going to have a lot of positive posts about the series, because I really want to see them! I have a bad memory, because of a lack of oxygen in my brain and on top of that a lot of depression because of health problems, so I rip apart things I love all the time after reading or listening to others interpret events in much different ways than I do.

Unless, I'm misinterpreting, then I feel kind of embarrassed!

[Wibbs]

My unpopular opinion is that I don't have any major or even moderate gripes with DBZ like most fans do.

But didn't you start a huge thread talking about why DBZ was bad, which started out with a huge diatribe detailing what you though was bad bout it.

That was because I put everyone else's opinion on here above mine.

I see, my mistake. Sorry if my response came off a bit antagonizing.

[SylentEcho]

My unpopular opinions are that I like Broli, I like GT and didn't like the Black Star Balls arc.

I thought Broli was a really cool villain. I feel he's everything a savage out-of-control SSJ would be without the heart of Goku or the intelligence of Vegeta to control it. As for GT, I really enjoyed the action, although it was really rushed. I kind of enjoyed the Black Star Balls arc at first, but it was a chore to watch the entire thing. I actually fell asleep watching a few episodes and that never happens to me when I'm watching anything DB related. The first few episodes reminded me a bit of Dragon Ball, but the rest was just meh. Goku was too much of an eccentric for my taste. He seemed way more easy-going than he was even when he was a kid.

[thatdbzguy]

So you completely changed your mind? I'm happy for! That's great! Hopefully, you're going to have a lot of positive posts about the series, because I really want to see them! I have a bad memory, because of a lack of oxygen in my brain and on top of that a lot of depression because of health problems, so I rip apart things I love all the time after reading or listening to others interpret events in much different ways than I do.

Unless, I'm misinterpreting, then I feel kind of embarrassed!

I just decided to feel completely neutral about everything and anything involving DB so the opinions of others won't get to me as much.

[ChiChiFan]

I like Teen Gohan better than Kid Gohan.

As in Teen Gohan, do you mean the one from the Great Saiyaman Saga because preferring him in the Cell Games than previous incarnations isn't that unpopular?

She just wanted the best for Gohan.

She wanted what SHE thought was best, his happiness be damned.

Which was why she let him go to Namek (granted she didn't like it but she accepted it in the long run), and let him parade around as a superhero.

I've always liked Gohan but he had more of a personality after he fought Cell. I don't understand the hate for Gohan during the Buu arc. Yes he wasn't as strong and bad ass when he fought Cell but he was never a fighter to begin with.

[MediaFanGirl93]

I don't care what anyone thinks, I dislike Broly a lot. Fans overrate the guy, when he has little to no personality. I mean, hating someone because his crying bothered him? Seriously?

I also hate the Saiyan and Frieza Saga, but a lot of fans love it. My favorite Saga has got to be the Buu Saga, because of how funny it is. I also love the Cell Saga as well.

I also don't like Vegeta that much. He's not a bad character, but he doesn't appeal to me because of the bad things he's done, and fans like to woobify the guy and blame Frieza for his actions, ignoring the fact that Vegeta is old enough to make his own life-decisions.

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Similar stories to the last one actually has happened in real-life (where the mother shows greater concern for the child than the father despite having relatively minor injuries). Chi-Chi only looks bad there because Toriyama-sensei decided to play it up for laughs.

Is this the one when Chi-Chi ignored Goku after the Vegeta fight and only paid attention to Gohan? That was ages ago, fans are still bellyaching about that?? I mean, granted, she was obviously in the wrong, but it's annoying how fans best know her for this, despite it being the only occurrence of that.

I bet if Bulma ignored Yamcha/Vegeta if they were in bad condition after a terrible fight, fans would ignore it or try to sugar coat it because Bulma's such an angel (sarcasm).

Chi-Chi is not really mother of the year because of her flaws as a tiger mom, but she's not a bad mother either because she at least tries to be a good mother and she improves..

My unpopular opinion is that I honestly dont give the slightest shit about uub.

I don't think this is unpopular, I don't think Uub is liked too much by the fandom, because I see people complain about him all the time.

[DBZAOTA482]

Similar stories to the last one actually has happened in real-life (where the mother shows greater concern for the child than the father despite having relatively minor injuries). Chi-Chi only looks bad there because Toriyama-sensei decided to play it up for laughs.

Is this the one when Chi-Chi ignored Goku after the Vegeta fight and only paid attention to Gohan? That was ages ago, fans are still bellyaching about that?? I mean, granted, she was obviously in the wrong, but it's annoying how fans best know her for this, despite it being the only occurrence of that.

I bet if Bulma ignored Yamcha/Vegeta if they were in bad condition after a terrible fight, fans would ignore it or try to sugar coat it because Bulma's such an angel (sarcasm).

They'll definitely ignore or sugarcoat it if she did that to Yamcha.

My unpopular opinion is that I honestly dont give the slightest shit about uub.

Who does?

[Kid Buu]

They'll definitely ignore or sugarcoat it if she did that to Yamcha.

If Bulma did that to Yamcha the fans will be all like "yamcha such a loser even his gf dont care about him"

[MediaFanGirl93]

All I can say about Chi-Chi being a Tiger mom is that she's not a perfect mother (and neither is Goku a perfect father), because of how she tries to get Gohan to follow her ways of life, but I understand this, because my parents themselves used to be like this. I remember them pushing my brothers and I to be either a doctor/lawyer/engineer because they were hardcore "Education Parents" and when we all got older, they gave up on being that way and started letting us do what we wanted with out lives. No parent is perfect. Although I'm not Japanese, other cultures are pretty much the same.

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Similar stories to the last one actually has happened in real-life (where the mother shows greater concern for the child than the father despite having relatively minor injuries). Chi-Chi only looks bad there because Toriyama-sensei decided to play it up for laughs.

Is this the one when Chi-Chi ignored Goku after the Vegeta fight and only paid attention to Gohan? That was ages ago, fans are still bellyaching about that?? I mean, granted, she was obviously in the wrong, but it's annoying how fans best know her for this, despite it being the only occurrence of that.

I bet if Bulma ignored Yamcha/Vegeta if they were in bad condition after a terrible fight, fans would ignore it or try to sugar coat it because Bulma's such an angel (sarcasm).

They'll definitely ignore or sugarcoat it if she did that to Yamcha.

Agreed. A lot of fans would even blame Yamcha for his own injuries and say it was his fault for getting himself in that position and being weak.

If Bulma did that to Yamcha the fans will be all like "yamcha such a loser even his gf dont care about him"

Indeed.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Yamcha does get a lot of undue hate. It's not his fault he's the buttmonkey of the series, it's just how it played out in retrospect. If anything, that's on Toriyama, more than it is the character.

My unpopular opinion is that I honestly dont give the slightest shit about uub.

Who does?

Uh...*raises hand*

I'll admit there's not a lot to get from the guy, given that he's only in the tail end of Z, and GT absolutely wastes every bit of potential they had to work with the character. But I tend to like and care about the character based on said potential. He's such a blank slate that they could do some really cool stuff with him if they wanted to - a human character that can have power to rival or even outdo the Saiyan characters, who happens to be the only one who probably can take up Goku's mantle? It's practically blasphemy that they HAVEN'T done something with the guy.

[RandomGuy96]

Yamcha does get a lot of undue hate. It's not his fault he's the buttmonkey of the series, it's just how it played out in retrospect. If anything, that's on Toriyama, more than it is the character.

I'd buy that if he were only the victim of circumstance and was actually a great guy otherwise, but I most often see him bashed when he looks pathetic or stupid himself, which is a lot (his fear of girls, picking fights with starving children, arrogantly declaring he can take all six Saibamen then losing to one, cheating on his rich and beautiful and girlfriend and then losing her to the guy who killed him).

[Gyt Kaliba]

Eh...some of that is still giving him undue crap, IMO anyway. His fear of girls is a humorous and endearing character trait, that without it at first, he would have just been this tough (but not tough enough) bandit out in the desert, not to mention the fact that if it wasn't for that, he would have won that first encounter. As for picking with starving kids, he was a bandit at the time. Sure, that's low, but it's not exactly unexpected. His arrogance towards the Saibamen is a count against him, yes, but it's no less bad than all of the other times other characters declare themselves a badass only to get their butts handed to them (Vegeta excels at this).

The biggest one though, the "cheating"? There's absolutely no real evidence in the series to suggest that he actually did. Our main proof of that is Bulma saying he did. We're taking the word of a woman who freaked out when her boyfriend happened to get noticed by other girls, the same guy who was too timid to even look at her just months before and is unlikely to know how to cheat even if he wanted to. As far as I'm concerned, Bulma probably just got annoyed at Yamcha again, and she accused him of cheating, and then he left, and she hooked up with Vegeta out of rage. Or perhaps Yamcha did finally cheat, after years of her claiming he did, and that's what drove her to Vegeta. Even in that scenario, Yamcha wouldn't be guiltless of course, but I'd still put the blame more on her.

I'm not even a big fan of Yamcha, by any means, but other than some legitimately funny shots at him in stuff like Abridged, most of the fan hate just seems a little overboard.

[KentalSSJ6]

According to some websites, I am a pathetic and fake DBZ fan for liking GT and thinking DBZ Kai is better than the old Z dub.

I mean, people have literally told me to kill myself for it.

[RandomGuy96]

Eh...some of that is still giving him undue crap, IMO anyway. His fear of girls is a humorous and endearing character trait, that without it at first, he would have just been this tough (but not tough enough) bandit out in the desert, not to mention the fact that if it wasn't for that, he would have won that first encounter.

You don't think it looks pathetic for a hardened bandit to not kill someone he was just going to kill because he was completely frightened at the sight of a teenage girl?

As for picking with starving kids, he was a bandit at the time. Sure, that's low, but it's not exactly unexpected

All of Goku's friends started off as rivals or villains. Most of them looked pretty badass; Ten won that tournament, Piccolo very nearly killed the strongest version of Goku at the time while easily swatting aside the supporting cast (and blew up an island), Vegeta defeated Goku and put his friends through hell (and almost blew up the planet), Fat/Mr Buu easily defeated Gohan, Kaioshin, Dabra, and Vegeta without even really trying (he basically trolled his way through those fights)... Yamcha, on the other hand, picked a fight with a starving kid (did he even know Goku was superhuman?), didn't succeed in taking him down, and was then easily defeated when said child actually got some food and rest.

His arrogance towards the Saibamen is a count against him, yes, but it's no less bad than all of the other times other characters declare themselves a badass only to get their butts handed to them (Vegeta excels at this).

The situation with Vegeta is different, actually. Whenever he talked trash towards someone who would later beat him, he couldn't sense them, so he doesn't look THAT dumb. Yamcha could sense all of the Saibamen and still thought he could take them, despite being barley stronger than them. Then he got killed by one.

Also, other characters at least get stomped by important villains. Yamcha was killed by a 'faceless', personality-less mook. Then, to rub in how pathetic he is, Krillin kills three of them with one attack right after, and Piccolo one-shots the sole survivor.

The biggest one though, the "cheating"? There's absolutely no real evidence in the series to suggest that he actually did.

Toriyama said he did.

[Gyt Kaliba]

You don't think it looks pathetic for a hardened bandit to not kill someone he was just going to kill because he was completely frightened at the sight of a teenage girl?

Maybe in a super serious series, yeah. But in something as goofy as Dragon Ball? Not at all. Especially not in that era where there's still poop jokes galore.

All of Goku's friends started off as rivals or villains. Most of them looked pretty badass; Ten won that tournament, Piccolo very nearly killed the strongest version of Goku at the time while easily swatting aside the supporting cast (and blew up an island), Vegeta defeated Goku and put his friends through hell (and almost blew up the planet), Fat/Mr Buu easily defeated Gohan, Kaioshin, Dabra, and Vegeta without even really trying (he basically trolled his way through those fights)... Yamcha, on the other hand, picked a fight with a starving kid (did he even know Goku was superhuman?), didn't succeed in taking him down, and was then easily defeated when said child actually got some food and rest.

He also happens to be the first rival-turned-friend though, so if the later instances didn't outshine his, then it wouldn't work anyway. And considering Goku is Goku after all, saying it like Yamcha lost to a child is a little unfair too. An entire military would later lose to that same child, and I don't see anybody giving the Red Ribbon crap for it. A Martial Arts master like Roshi, who taught Goku practically everything he knew at the time, almost lost to him too. He only won by the fluke of having longer legs, and I don't see too many people acting like Roshi's a failure.

The situation with Vegeta is different, actually. Whenever he talked trash towards someone who would later beat him, he couldn't sense them, so he doesn't look THAT dumb. Yamcha could sense all of the Saibamen and still thought he could take them, despite being barley stronger than them. Then he got killed by one.

Also, other characters at least get stomped by important villains. Yamcha was killed by a 'faceless', personality-less mook. Then, to rub in how pathetic he is, Krillin kills three of them with one attack right after, and Piccolo one-shots the sole survivor.

Vegeta had ample warning about how strong the Androids were, and despite how easily the #19 went down, none of the others were particularly cocky about 17 and 18 when they came up. Only Vegeta completely ignored everything they had been told and made a total fool of himself. And Vegeta had already learned how to sense power levels by the time Cell came into the picture, and he still made some really stupid decisions there. To be fair, he didn't have the same number of years of practice at sensing power as say, Kuririn, who actually picked up on how strong Cell was and that Trunks was holding back...but by the time Boo came into the picture he should have. And still he puts everything important on the back burner just so he can have his one last fight with Goku. He may make up for it with his actions after the fact, but the fact remains that Vegeta has made a ton more worse decisions than Yamcha ever did, and gets far less crap for them in general. This bewilders me to no end.

You are right that at least he gets his comeuppance from important characters though, and I'll admit it was stupid of Yamcha to just jump in at the Saibamen like that. But just for one mistake and the guy is suddenly blacklisted as a lame character?

Toriyama said he did.

Perhaps, but Toriyama also said he gave Vegeta a mustache in the end of the manga, when that was only in the GT designs. The man's not infallible. And, though this is just my own personal preference, if 'word of god' doesn't automatically become clear in the series itself and there's actually a lot of evidence to show the contrary, it doesn't automatically have to be true for me. Again, that's just how I take it, and I'm probably in the minority on that one.

[Kid Buu]

Why did Toriyama say he gave Vegeta a mustache?

To be fair, a lot of Yamcha's failure can be chalked up to bad luck. I give the title of biggest butt-monkey to the guy who could have been the hero of the Cell arc, but ended up helping the villain become complete and got his ass kicked. Then could have been hero of the Buu arc, but threw a temper tantrum and got Buu released instead.

[Dbzfan94]

According to some websites, I am a pathetic and fake DBZ fan for liking GT and thinking DBZ Kai is better than the old Z dub.

I mean, people have literally told me to kill myself for it.

It's funny, I get called a fake fan for the opposite. Liking the dub.