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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:40 am

More importantly, which Buu?
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:57 am

thatdbzguy wrote:I think Buu and Pinkie Pie would make a great couple.
DragonBoxZTheMovie wrote:Given the nature of this question, I'm a bit hesitant to ask...but who or what is 'Pinkie Pie'?
Pinkie Pie is a character from My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic. She's one of my favs.

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Post by thatdbzguy » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:15 am

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:
MediaFanGirl93 wrote:I dislike Gotenks because to me, he's a pompous, annoying a$$hole who thinks he's so tough, but get his ass handed to him/. Fans overrate the guy, yet hate on other characters and I find it annoying.
Yeah, I wasn't a huge fan of Gotenks either.
thatdbzguy wrote:I think Buu and Pinkie Pie would make a great couple.
Given the nature of this question, I'm a bit hesitant to ask...but who or what is 'Pinkie Pie'?
My Little Pony character.

She's basically a female Buu.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by baneofdemon22 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:24 am

goku the krump dancer wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Vegetto's plan was stupid, failed, and got everybody killed,
Also I think Chi Chi is adorable.
I do too! I love Chi Chi!

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:00 pm

baneofdemon22 wrote:
goku the krump dancer wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Vegetto's plan was stupid, failed, and got everybody killed,
Also I think Chi Chi is adorable.
I do too! I love Chi Chi!
I actually don't mind her either.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:06 pm

baneofdemon22 wrote:
goku the krump dancer wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Vegetto's plan was stupid, failed, and got everybody killed,
Also I think Chi Chi is adorable.
I do too! I love Chi Chi!
Not my favorite female character, not by a long shot but she's at the top of my list when it comes to physical attraction (out of Dragon Ball, anyways).
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:13 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Not my favorite female character, not by a long shot but she's at the top of my list when it comes to physical attraction (out of Dragon Ball, anyways).
Agreed. I always though she was the best looking female character, with Videl coming in second. Even though she's not my top female character (my favorite is actually Android 18).

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Weejus » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:34 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
baneofdemon22 wrote:
goku the krump dancer wrote:Also I think Chi Chi is adorable.
I do too! I love Chi Chi!
Not my favorite female character, not by a long shot but she's at the top of my list when it comes to physical attraction (out of Dragon Ball, anyways).
Chi-Chi gets my vote for favourite DB female because when you search for her, the vast majority of results are not NSFW (unlike Android 18, who proves that Google Safesearch does not work, that said, I have seen instances where the likes of Palutena from Kid Icarus and Katara from Avatar: TLOA have been the same way). Plus, I can understand why she's so short-tempered and it gives her added realism (unlike Bulma who should sit down and shut up).

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:40 pm

Bulma's probably my favorite, at least in her adult years. She's the most three dimensional and realistically flawed, not to mention by far the most useful. She built the Dragon Radar, re-programmed 16 and removed his bomb, built a goddamn time machine, et cetera.

I think Chi Chi gets too much shit for being the only parent who is half-way sane when it comes to her kid, but it's hard for me to really see her as 'good' because of the whole "you have to marry me because you promised me when you were 12" stuff. Not to mention she should KNOW what she's getting into by marrying someone like Goku.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:47 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote: Vegetto's plan was stupid, failed, and got everybody killed, including him (sort of) so he's really not so different from Gotenks. It only had some positive effects because of something Vegetto wasn't even expecting (finding Buu inside Buu). 
Vegetto's plan failed because he had no idea that getting inside Boo would split him back, and there is no way for anyone to predict that. If the plan had gone correctly, he would have weakened Boo, saved the others, and then would have killed Boo. He could have killed Boo from the 1st second, but he would have also killed his sons... and I doubt that even Vegeta alone would kill Trunks, even if he knew that he would bring him back to life.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:40 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote: Vegetto's plan was stupid, failed, and got everybody killed, including him (sort of) so he's really not so different from Gotenks. It only had some positive effects because of something Vegetto wasn't even expecting (finding Buu inside Buu). 
Vegetto's plan failed because he had no idea that getting inside Boo would split him back, and there is no way for anyone to predict that. If the plan had gone correctly, he would have weakened Boo, saved the others, and then would have killed Boo. He could have killed Boo from the 1st second, but he would have also killed his sons... and I doubt that even Vegeta alone would kill Trunks, even if he knew that he would bring him back to life.
It failed because he didn't kill Buu. They could have wished everyone back later. Vegetto should have known better than to let himself get absorbed. He had no idea what would happen, has seen Buu pull out new abilities before, and in all honesty the way he avoided it was complete ass pull bullshit.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:58 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Bulma's probably my favorite, at least in her adult years. She's the most three dimensional and realistically flawed, not to mention by far the most useful. She built the Dragon Radar, re-programmed 16 and removed his bomb, built a goddamn time machine, et cetera.

I think Chi Chi gets too much shit for being the only parent who is half-way sane when it comes to her kid, but it's hard for me to really see her as 'good' because of the whole "you have to marry me because you promised me when you were 12" stuff. Not to mention she should KNOW what she's getting into by marrying someone like Goku.
I personally prefer Bulma post Frieza Saga because I felt she got more mature when she became a mother. I also loved her in the Buu Saga.

Also, to be fair to Chi-Chi, she was very naive and she had to learn the hard way to never marry someone you barely know. While Chi-Chi's not the perfect mother because of how overprotective she can be, she's a decent parent in my book because any real life parent would go insane if any child of theirs went through most of the stuff Gohan did.

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Post by ABED » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:07 pm

Story wise, Vegetto's in a tricky position, he's strong enough to destroy Buu without trouble, and the Dragon Balls wishing people back is too easy. Toriyama obviously didn't think the logic through, and it comes off as a weak attempt to inject drama. That said, I still like the Vegetto episodes. It's nice to see the hero kick the crap out of the villain and give him a taste of his own medicine.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:44 pm

I know because of plot this could't happen but.

I wanted Nam to beat Goku and Jackie Chun. Thus winning the Tenkaichi Budokai. He deserved it the most IMHO.

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Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:52 pm

ABED wrote:Story wise, Vegetto's in a tricky position, he's strong enough to destroy Buu without trouble, and the Dragon Balls wishing people back is too easy. Toriyama obviously didn't think the logic through, and it comes off as a weak attempt to inject drama. That said, I still like the Vegetto episodes. It's nice to see the hero kick the crap out of the villain and give him a taste of his own medicine.
Personally, to me, Vegetto was very arrogant, but my favorite scenes with him is when he got turned into a coffee flavored jawbreaker and he enjoyed ticking Buu off lol.

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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:42 am

Freeza is my least favorite villain of the Z Big Bads.
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Post by TheOverlyMadHatter » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:54 am

Gotenks Buu is my favorite form of Buu, simply for how he easily knocks Gohan off his pedestal, taunting him and tossing him around like a rag doll, and because he is depicted as the smartest Buu to date.

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TheOverlyMadHatter wrote:Gotenks Buu is my favorite form of Buu, simply for how he easily knocks Gohan off his pedestal, taunting him and tossing him around like a rag doll, and because he is depicted as the smartest Buu to date.
Same, I really enjoy his trash talking in the dub as well. :lol:
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:57 am

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TheOverlyMadHatter wrote:Gotenks Buu is my favorite form of Buu, simply for how he easily knocks Gohan off his pedestal, taunting him and tossing him around like a rag doll, and because he is depicted as the smartest Buu to date.
Same, I really enjoy his trash talking in the dub as well. :lol:
Gotenks Boo(English dub) was a fucking troll. Made me laugh honestly.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:58 am

Is that really unpopular? Anyway, Gotenks-Buu is seemingly no smarter or dumber than Super Buu, just more eloquent. That's because he and Super Buu are the exact same person; Buutenks is just Super Buu with more eloquence and a higher battle power.

Gotenks Boo(English dub) was a fucking troll. Made me laugh honestly.

"Time to show you why my little bro looks up to me"
"He doesn't".

:lol:
I still think his "deserter" line was the best.

"...and Trunks thinks you're a cowardly deserter, just like your father."

I always thought he was a major dick when he said that, but recently I just sat down realized "Huh, he's kinda right".

Either that or:

"Without your father holding your hand, you really are nothing."

Or:

"For your sake, I hope you brought some insurance to back up your claims. But knowing you, Goku, you probably don't even know what insurance means."

(yeah, I know that's technically Piccolo-Buu, but he should be the same personality-wise anyway)

Is it unpopular to prefer the English dub of that fight? Or the anime version as opposed to the manga version?
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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