Has TFS damaged the reputation of the franchise in the U.S.?

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:31 pm

petronka101 wrote:
Not at all what I was saying That example doesn't even come close to the case in point. And I'm aware that they're using a shorter, edited version of the original footage... hence the word abridged. In any case, I'm not Funi's lawyer. It's my interpretation from what I've read from the US Copyright Act.

That only serves as a example of the subjectivity and flaws of the justice system. My point is that there is a lot more to suing somebody or not than it just being illegal or not protected by law or in a gray area or not.

petronka101 · Post by **petronka101** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:51 pm

rereboy wrote:
petronka101 wrote: Not at all what I was saying That example doesn't even come close to the case in point. And I'm aware that they're using a shorter, edited version of the original footage... hence the word abridged. In any case, I'm not Funi's lawyer. It's my interpretation from what I've read from the US Copyright Act.
That only serves as a example of the subjectivity and flaws on the justice system. My point is that there is a lot more to suing somebody or not than it just being illegal or not protected by law or in a gray area or not.

I'm a she, and I concur that there are some very frivolous lawsuits going on in the judicial system in the U.S. right now (never lived there, just assume from American news we get here). However, here I see merit. This is taken from the U.S. Copyright office website about section 107 through 118 of the copyright law on fair use:

"The distinction between what is fair use and what is infringement in a particular case will not always be clear or easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission… The safest course is to get permission from the copyright owner before using copyrighted material. The Copyright Office cannot give this permission… When it is impracticable to obtain permission, you should consider avoiding the use of copyrighted material unless you are confident that the doctrine of fair use would apply to the situation. The Copyright Office can neither determine whether a particular use may be considered fair nor advise on possible copyright violations. If there is any doubt, it is advisable to consult an attorney."

So from what I see, we'll have to keep our different opinions. However, I don't think this is even that relevant because as I said, Funi doesn't seem interested in taking any legal action for reasons I stated in my previous comments.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:32 pm

Ok. I'll like to Post an example of when TFS jokes in the comment section annoys me and just irks me.

Krillin Dies For the First Time (Dragon Box) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEeIyJvwTKg

Thomas Melani1 month ago

Thumbs up if you thought it was Mr. Popo!

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:34 pm

Oh god the fucking Mr. Popo references. The only time I want to see TFS Popo again is when Super Buu kills him.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:35 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Oh god the fucking Mr. Popo references. The only time I want to see TFS Popo again is when Super Buu kills him.

Yea honestly their most overrated character. I mean that's saying a lot cause TFS isn't overrated IMHO. But the Pop jokes got old....FAST. Also didn't someone at TFS say at a Anime Convention that they're stopping at Cell Arc and MIGHT do Dragonball? Though if they do...I want to see Goten(Favorite character) kick TFS pop ass just like Goten did in filler.

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:37 pm

It was probably the same person who said Toriyama intended to end the series at Freeza.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:42 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:It was probably the same person who said Toriyama intended to end the series at Freeza.

I mean there's a video of it. In fact I think it was the Episode 30 preview convention. If Kaiser can confirm this or I can pull up the video real fast it'll be nice.

Ugh. From the same video here's more:

Sasha Braus1 year ago

And thus the start of krillin being owned begins....

TheLastBabyMan3 months ago

Krillin Owned Count: 0.5

I love TFS but their fans sometimes. They don't even use the jokes in the correct manner. Every-time Krillin does a "Fail" is NOT an owned count....

Kid Buu · Post by **Kid Buu** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:07 pm

The jokes are WAY overused, it's seriously annoying.

BlazingFiddlesticks · Post by **BlazingFiddlesticks** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:33 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Also didn't someone at TFS say at a Anime Convention that they're stopping at Cell Arc and MIGHT do Dragonball?

I have a vague memory of personally hearing an online recording of that question asked and that answer given. I wouldn't be surprised. Arc by arc would be the best time to reexamine if the cast could be continually assembled for another round. The reminder of Kai would be purely an unfortunate coincidence.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:39 pm

BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Also didn't someone at TFS say at a Anime Convention that they're stopping at Cell Arc and MIGHT do Dragonball?
I have a vague memory of personally hearing an online recording of that question asked and that answer given. I wouldn't be surprised. Arc by arc would be the best time to reexamine if the cast could be continually assembled for another round. The reminder of Kai would be purely an unfortunate coincidence.

Ok everyone here's the video. Now I'm taking a Nap so if anyone have time to look at the videos to see if TFS's last Arc is indeed Cell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFSCT1H ... DC&index=1 - Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTk4_4P ... DC&index=2 - Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNDvVWz ... DC&index=3 - Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PjoywEm2pQ - Part 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Conx40lwGFA - Part 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTk4_4PLOys - Part 6

KaiserNeko · Post by **KaiserNeko** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:01 pm

I could always just make everyone's life easier and answer myself!

As of right now: We do not know if we'll be going past the Cell Saga. We'd really love to, but we have no idea what our lives are going to be like three years from now when we're likely done with the saga.

So, who knows!

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:05 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:I could always just make everyone's life easier and answer myself!

As of right now: We do not know if we'll be going past the Cell Saga. We'd really love to, but we have no idea what our lives are going to be like three years from now when we're likely done with the saga.

So, who knows!

Well, here's hoping you get to the very end. I really, really wanna see your guys' take on the Buus.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:12 am

I sometimes wonder how TFS will be able to continue coming up with idea's for how to twist the characters...but then I think back on how they handled Nail, Nappa, Dende the Great Elder...and my faith is restored. Really hoping to see the Buu arc come to pass, but the original Dragon Ball would be even better! If nothing else, I hope all of the movies have a chance to get the TFS treatment.

WittyUsername · Post by **WittyUsername** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:26 pm

Considering how the Buu saga already had a pretty comedic tone, I don't think doing a parody of it would really work out all that well.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:45 pm

WittyUsername wrote:Considering how the Buu saga already had a pretty comedic tone, I don't think doing a parody of it would really work out all that well.

If Gozar can do it then so can TFS. Unless they use reverse humor and make Boo Arc so serious it's funny

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:57 pm

The Buu arc does get pretty serious whenever Buu stops joking around and reminds you who he really is. Fat Buu's BRUTAL beat down of Vegeta and his susbequent sacrifice (Nappa: "Hahaha. Pointless."), Super Buu killing everyone on Earth and the Lookout (yeah, screw you Popo), the hopelessness of the situation when Super Buu's plan starts being put into action (Gotenks being absorbed, Gohan being beat down, Goku being beat down, Gohan getting absorbed, Vegetto failing and defusing, Goku getting beat down again), the sudden relief upon Super Buu's transformation to a weaker form being interrupted when said form randomly blows up the planet, etc.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:20 pm

Maybe little Buu could be written as Buu with Popo absorbed...

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:48 pm

Duo wrote:Maybe little Buu could be written as Buu with Popo absorbed...

No. Please oh god no. Popo is long dead by the time Super Buu gets weakened into Pure Buu. Keep it that way.

WittyUsername · Post by **WittyUsername** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:52 pm

Honestly, if TFS does do the Buu saga, the main thing I would be looking forward to would be seeing Bulma and Popo getting eaten.

DBZAOTA482 · Post by **DBZAOTA482** » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:19 am

WittyUsername wrote:Considering how the Buu saga already had a pretty comedic tone, I don't think doing a parody of it would really work out all that well.

The Boo Saga was either deathly serious or a flat-out comedy so I think they could pull off a good parody out of that.

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