How did Kuririn end up with #18?
How did Kuririn end up with #18?
I've always wondered how those two ended up together. Any theories or anything official on how the two ended up together? I'm under the impression that it took a while before she even considered going out on a date with him.
Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
It kind of seems like a gag pairing.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
Kuririn showed many times during the Android/Cell arc that he loved #18. He refused to deactivate her when he had a clear chance to do it, smashing the controller in the process. He showing that he literally chose #18 over the fate of the world as his decision made it very likely that Cell would reach his perfect form. He later wishes Shenlong to remove the explosive device from #18’s body. #18 is clearly moved by this when she says “see you later” or whatever it was before she leaves God’s Sanctuary after Kuririn makes his wish.
I always imagine that #18 took the initiative and sought Kuririn out. I assume she probably just showed up at Kame House and asked Kuririn out. Eventually Kuririn’s personality just grew on her after that. If we assume that #18 was a juvenile delinquent prior to her being turned into a cyborg by Dr. Gero, a nice guy like Kuririn would probably be a big departure from the type of men she was probably used to in her “past life.”
I always imagine that #18 took the initiative and sought Kuririn out. I assume she probably just showed up at Kame House and asked Kuririn out. Eventually Kuririn’s personality just grew on her after that. If we assume that #18 was a juvenile delinquent prior to her being turned into a cyborg by Dr. Gero, a nice guy like Kuririn would probably be a big departure from the type of men she was probably used to in her “past life.”
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
The same way anybody else ends up together: alcohol.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
Sloppy writing.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
In reality he would totally get friend zoned.
Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
If we are actually going to take this discussion seriously:
She reminds me a lot of 7 of 9 from "Star Trek: Voyager". Someone like that is probably awkward herself in some ways, and while she is conventionally "hot", Krillin's probably got the superior social skills.
When she decided that she wanted to see what the human boom-boom-chicka-boom was all about, it's not beyond the imagination that she approached Krillin (who was an interested male) bluntly. It's also not beyond the imagination that she wouldn't do "subtle" very well. Krillin hasn't been at all subtle.
She reminds me a lot of 7 of 9 from "Star Trek: Voyager". Someone like that is probably awkward herself in some ways, and while she is conventionally "hot", Krillin's probably got the superior social skills.
When she decided that she wanted to see what the human boom-boom-chicka-boom was all about, it's not beyond the imagination that she approached Krillin (who was an interested male) bluntly. It's also not beyond the imagination that she wouldn't do "subtle" very well. Krillin hasn't been at all subtle.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
I picture #18 asking Kuririn out in a rather rude manner. She seemed like the more aggressive of the two and this shows up even after they are married when she clearly "wore the pants" in their household. I guess it doesn't hurt that she is more powerful than him and could beat him up!orbweaver wrote:If we are actually going to take this discussion seriously:
She reminds me a lot of 7 of 9 from "Star Trek: Voyager". Someone like that is probably awkward herself in some ways, and while she is conventionally "hot", Krillin's probably got the superior social skills.
When she decided that she wanted to see what the human boom-boom-chicka-boom was all about, it's not beyond the imagination that she approached Krillin (who was an interested male) bluntly. It's also not beyond the imagination that she wouldn't do "subtle" very well. Krillin hasn't been at all subtle.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
I say Toriyama left it vague on purpose to give the fanfic writers of the world some potential material.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
Personally I like Mr. Piccolo's answer the best. It probably took a while, but Krillin's persistence would've won her over eventually.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
Kuririn wouldn't stop stalking until she agreed to date him.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
She could have just blown his head off in that case.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Kuririn wouldn't stop stalking until she agreed to date him.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
Nah, then she risks pissing off Gohan. Though maybe Gohan would be like "eh, he's the reason my dad is dead, so fuck 'I'm. Hey, wait a minute..." then blow up 18 for kicks.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
Why is Kuririn the reason Gohan's dad died?
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
Thought with his dick, didn't destroy the evil cyborg when he could, caused Cell to become perfect.Kid Buu wrote:Why is Kuririn the reason Gohan's dad died?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
He'd be a reason. You can also how Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan, and Goku himself responsible for Goku dying.RandomGuy96 wrote:Thought with his dick, didn't destroy the evil cyborg when he could, caused Cell to become perfect.Kid Buu wrote:Why is Kuririn the reason Gohan's dad died?
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
They are. But Gohan of course wouldn't kill himself over it... he totally should have blown up Vegeta, though. That would have saved everyone a loooooot of problems later along the line.Kid Buu wrote:Then by that logic Goku himself, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Gohan are also the reason why Goku died.RandomGuy96 wrote:Thought with his dick, didn't destroy the evil cyborg when he could, caused Cell to become perfect.Kid Buu wrote:Why is Kuririn the reason Gohan's dad died?
How is Piccolo the reason Goku died? He did screw up by letting Cell get away, but he didn't help him get away or knowingly refuse to destroy him when had the chance.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
Piccolo's battle with Seventeen gave away their location to Cell, and also I'm pretty sure it was Piccolo who let it out to Cell that he could regenerate.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
The difference is that both of those are signs of stupidity rather than outright selfishness like Krillin and Vegeta.Kid Buu wrote:Piccolo's battle with Seventeen gave away their location to Cell, and also I'm pretty sure it was Piccolo who let it out to Cell that he could regenerate.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: How did Kuririn end up with #18?
Then again, in Krillin's case, his decision was probably influenced by the fact that he saw #18 as a victim rather than an aggressor. I don't think his decision would have been the same if she and #17 had, say, murdered all of his friends, and left a trail of death and destruction in their wake rather than sparing his friends, and only mildly inconveniencing people.The difference is that both of those are signs of stupidity rather than outright selfishness like Krillin and Vegeta.
And I'm fairly certain Cell already knew that he had regenerative powers. I interpret him not knowing that Piccolo did as a brain fart on his part.
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Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".