Broli Galaxy Destruction Plot Hole

flashback0180 · Post by **flashback0180** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:46 am

Most of us know/believe that Brolly is not a Galaxy buster.

The reason i'm trying to bring back this topic is because , there are still a lot of people claiming he is( they are everywhere)..

I didn't want to believe that Broly was so strong because of the Dub error,the fact they were in the south galxy and it would be foolish to make a super sayien 1 so strong.

What exactly did the ORIGINAL JAPANESE translation tell .

Post by **Herms** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:10 am

Not entirely clear what exactly you're asking, but Broli is said to have destroyed the South Galaxy in the Japanese version.

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:13 am

Herms wrote:Not entirely clear what exactly you're asking, but Broli is said to have destroyed the South Galaxy in the Japanese version.

How could he have destroyed the entire South Galaxy if the movie took place in the South Galaxy?

Post by **Herms** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:32 am

The movie takes place in the South Galaxy? Did they say that?

Anyway, if it does, Broli could have just destroyed the South Galaxy except for that one planet. It'd be kinda nitpicky to go "well, you didn't destroy every last single planet in the whole galaxy, so it doesn't count!"

All I know is, "the South Galaxy was destroyed by the legendary Super Saiyan" is a thing they say a few times in the movie. It's what kicks off the whole plot, since after the South Galaxy goes, North Kaio contacts Goku to try and keep the same thing happening in the North Galaxy.

dario03 · Post by **dario03** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:36 am

I thought it said that the South Galaxy was under attack, and Kaio says that at this rate even the North Galaxy will be destroyed. What a lot of people say is that this was done with cinematic time (as in he did it over a long period of time). But even then that's a absurd showing since unless the South Galaxy was tiny he would of destroyed Billions of stars. Forget the power required, I want to know how he had the time... Also it shows him destroying the galaxy but like you said the movie takes place in the South Galaxy (though do they say that in the Japanese version? I recall King Kai telling Goku to look in the South Galaxy in the Funi dub and I think he does in the Japanese version but don't recall for sure). Which is why another theory is that the Galaxy isn't really being destroyed but it was just a visual to imply that Broly was causing tons of destruction to worlds but not necessarily destroying them (since Goku even visits some of the planets).

Either way I wouldn't blame the dub since both versions could be viewed as them saying that he destroyed the galaxy (or at least most of it). Heck I knew tons of people that thought he did years before the Funi Dub even came out. And really I don't even see a problem with them thinking so since the visual does flat out show a Galaxy disappearing.

MDSTSSJ · Post by **MDSTSSJ** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:50 pm

flashback0180 wrote:
I didn't want to believe that Broly was so strong because of the Dub error,the fact they were in the south galxy and it would be foolish to make a super sayien 1 so strong.

Broly has no SSJ1 as such. And Yes, he is very very strong in his Legendary Super Saiya-jin mode so I see no problem with him destroying an entire galaxy piece by piece.

Kamiccolo9 · Post by **Kamiccolo9** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:05 pm

MDSTSSJ wrote:
flashback0180 wrote:
I didn't want to believe that Broly was so strong because of the Dub error,the fact they were in the south galxy and it would be foolish to make a super sayien 1 so strong.
Broly has no SSJ1 as such.

Yes, he does.

MDSTSSJ · Post by **MDSTSSJ** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:30 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
MDSTSSJ wrote:
flashback0180 wrote:
I didn't want to believe that Broly was so strong because of the Dub error,the fact they were in the south galxy and it would be foolish to make a super sayien 1 so strong.
Broly has no SSJ1 as such.
Yes, he does.

Oh yes, I don't know how could I forget that! Sorry!

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:10 pm

The galaxy was still there since we saw stars in the back ground on the Planet that the movie took place on. I'm pretty sure he destroyed the galaxy in a few years time since he spend his whole life there and he most likely did one Planet at a time. We never saw a Dragon Ball character destroy a Galaxy in one blast.

KentalSSJ6 · Post by **KentalSSJ6** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:35 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
MDSTSSJ wrote:
flashback0180 wrote:
I didn't want to believe that Broly was so strong because of the Dub error,the fact they were in the south galxy and it would be foolish to make a super sayien 1 so strong.
Broly has no SSJ1 as such.
Yes, he does.

If only they kept him like that.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:57 pm

Also it shows him destroying the galaxy but like you said the movie takes place in the South Galaxy (though do they say that in the Japanese version?

I'm, like, 85% sure they don't say anything about New Planet Vegeta being located in the South Galaxy in the Japanese version.

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:00 pm

If it really did say he outright destroyed an entire galaxy, then fuck this movie, because that makes no goddamned sense. Galaxys are BIG, and it's blatantly obvious that no DBZ character is anywhere near 0.0001% of the strength required to just destroy one with a ki blast.

SingleFringe&Sparks · Post by **SingleFringe&Sparks** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:05 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:If it really did say he outright destroyed an entire galaxy, then fuck this movie, because that makes no goddamned sense. Galaxys are BIG, and it's blatantly obvious that no DBZ character is anywhere near 0.0001% of the strength required to just destroy one with a ki blast.

It didnt, the dub said he did but King Kai actually only said implied that it was being attacked as he saw it while he was sensing it meaning it gradually was collapsing over the last few years that broly has been active in it but Goku goes there and still manages to find the planets still standing, he just destroyed thecivilizations.

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:12 pm

Broly wrecking any noticeable portion of a galaxy is complete and total BS, period. Galaxys are big. You know how many stars there are in our own galaxy alone? Over 100 billion. Low end. What's even more BS is that the scene seems to imply he destroyed stars as well. Did he even have his LSS form when he did this? Wasn't it restrained by the collar, and the most he had was blue haired SS? You know, the same form base Goku smacked around?

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:41 pm

The time it took for Broli to unleash whatever level of indiscriminate destruction he did isn't specified. It's not worth analyzing.

DBZGTKOSDH · Post by **DBZGTKOSDH** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:00 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Broly wrecking any noticeable portion of a galaxy is complete and total BS, period. Galaxys are big. You know how many stars there are in our own galaxy alone? Over 100 billion. Low end.

But Dragon Ball doesn't take place in our galaxy.

What's even more BS is that the scene seems to imply he destroyed stars as well.

And?

Did he even have his LSS form when he did this? Wasn't it restrained by the collar, and the most he had was blue haired SS? You know, the same form base Goku smacked around?

I guess Paragus could control him even in his LSS form, it's just Goku being there that made Broli break free.

Hugo Boss · Post by **Hugo Boss** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:07 pm

Broli never destroyed the entire South Galaxy with one blast, maybe the first iconic scene is a chain effect of what would happen if he had remained unstoppable. Goku followed the trace of his ki in a ruined planet and could still sense a bit of his energy after he left that place.

We can assume Broli was devastating tons of civilizations in the most different planets in the South Galaxy, like the one the movie takes place (I'm not 100% sure), much like a group of (Oozaru) Saiyans would do while he does it all alone.

The time he needed to do that was never specified, I guess it should be about 18 years. The movie shows a insane 12-year-old (I guess) Super Saiyan Broli destroying what looks like a city with one blast. It's important to note he uses only his regular Super Saiyan's state until he meets Goku.

In his Legendary Super Saiyan's form he erased a entire planet with a single tiny blast, but I don't think he is a galaxy-buster, I would say even Beerus isn't. The best imply we have is Beerus being capable of destroying the whole solar system in a very brief moment. Cell is capable of destroying the solar system as well, but I guess not in the same time frame as Beerus.

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:31 pm

But Dragon Ball doesn't take place in our galaxy.

Are you trying to insist that DB galaxys are thousands of times smaller than ours, even though there's only four of them? Because it'd still be far too large. FAAAAAR too huge for Broly to even cross the whole thing once in his lifetime.

And?

Broly is at best FP Perfect Cell level here. If FP Perfect Cell could destroy the sun (a relatively small star), then SPC being able to do so wouldn't be impressive, and he would've said "I have enough power to destroy the solar system!" during his first Kamehameha against SS2 Gohan.

Furthermore, he should be restricted to the blue haired RSS form, who Goku could go toe to toe with in his base form. So can base Goku destroy stars now?

I guess Paragus could control him even in his LSS form, it's just Goku being there that made Broli break free.

Is that ever shown or implied?

Polyphase Avatron · Post by **Polyphase Avatron** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:44 pm

Broly's entire existence is a plot hole

Friezacooler · Post by **Friezacooler** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:34 am

I recall not much of a plothole when Akira Toriyama designed broccoli himself. This a matter of Movie statement >>> you. regardless of dub, subbed or native the statement of Broly doing such thing feat wise or statement wise it does get mentioned or shown if i am correct? Still doesn't take away from the fact Broly is OP

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