Did the characters become too powerful?
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Re: Did the characters become too powerful?
I get Toriyama might have been poking fun at it but there's a difference between hanging a lantern on something and poking fun at it. Humor's great but when it's used to brush things off and undercut everything, including heroes and villains, that's when it starts to bother me.
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Re: Did the characters become too powerful?
Definitely one of the biggest disadvantages of DragonBall Z. But it's artistic freedom after all and everything does happen for the plot's sake. Toriyama strengthens or weakens characters according to the situation.
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Re: Did the characters become too powerful?
I don't think so. And there's always someone stronger than you.
Beerus and Whis proved that.
Beerus and Whis proved that.
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Re: Did the characters become too powerful?
"There's always a bigger fish."FortuneSSJ wrote:I don't think so. And there's always someone stronger than you.
Beerus and Whis proved that.
I love how in the scene when Whis is telling Beerus about the Super Saiyan, there's an aquarium in the background and a huge fish is eaten by an even bigger fish.
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Re: Did the characters become too powerful?
Not to mention it would make sense why Cell would eventually get to that point as his power literally keeps growing after all his experiences, he was designed to do so at his greatest potential.Vijay wrote:Progression from weak to omnipotent was shown in a very subtle manner in DBZ.
Kinda funny to see ridiculous "Blowing-up planet" kinda power-level arguements.
Only 2 instances shown in which Freeza (Planet Vegeta) & Kid Buu (Earth) blowing up planet.
Whats the big deal?
Freeza is also an alien that's entire economy is built on planet trade, the power caps of his people are far higher than any puny human could comprehend. It wouldnt make sense if all he was limited to was what humans could do just because they are dominant. Earth life forms have their own limits where basically everything else in DB outside Earth could so it with ease.
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Re: Did the characters become too powerful?
Nah. Raditz is STILL one of the strongest people in the universe. Only like a few hundreds surpass him. That's impressive to be honest. Characters didn't get to strong. Hell base Saiyans are weaker than Freeza.
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Re: Did the characters become too powerful?
It's not that the characters got too powerful, the audience just got too weak.
I mean, do you even lift?
I mean, do you even lift?
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Re: Did the characters become too powerful?
Except the people who think Vegeto (or even Broly) is stronger than themFortuneSSJ wrote:I don't think so. And there's always someone stronger than you.
Beerus and Whis proved that.
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Re: Did the characters become too powerful?
SS2 Gotenks > Beers
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: Did the characters become too powerful?
Yes, they did, which is why I believe the idea of SSJ5 is absurd, I mean, how will he fights be? One character breaths and the planet explodes? It's also one of the main reasons the fights in GT sucked, we know the characters are powerful as hell, but they battle in a way that doesn't destroy anyhting.