Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of DBZ?

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Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of DBZ?

Post by Low Tone G » Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:02 am

Please don't treat me a fool, because I know the meaning of Spin-off manga. But I have to say that if the Battle of Gods movie is a part of the official story, as the concept of it is by Akira Toriyama, then the two seem to have also Toriyama to have the concept, but both drawn by Ooishi Naho.

And there is the fact that Tarble was mentioned by Bulma in B.O.G., and Tarble has been never seen again in the official story before, not to mention in the original DB manga.

Do they(the two) have any effect on the official story?

Please share your opinion on this...
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarlbe OVA official parts of

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:20 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:1. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A DB CANON! When will people realize this?
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Just expect to see some of these responds. But yes I think Tarble is apart of the "official" part of DBZ. Though since BoG follows the manga more-so than the anime.. Then I;ll say both Tarble and Beerus are apart of the manga timeline. However EOB is your choice. I doubt it'll play a major point in the story besides Freeza's fear. So I'll say that EOB is part of the "official" story however some might disagree.

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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarlbe OVA official parts of

Post by Low Tone G » Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:51 am

Though since BoG follows the manga more-so than the anime..
At least it tries to follow the manga, as there is a big debate on created plot-holes. But thanks for your respond!
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by B » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:29 pm

Low Tone G wrote:Do they(the two) have any effect on the official story?
It'd be funny if all the video games from now on made you play Raditz-to-Beers.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:32 pm

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Low Tone G wrote:Do they(the two) have any effect on the official story?
It'd be funny if all the video games from now on made you play Raditz-to-Beers.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by Low Tone G » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:34 pm

It'd be funny if all the video games from now on made you play Raditz-to-Beers.
Yeah, I know the issue that Bardock has also an advanture in Dragon Ball Heroes(?), but Tarble had not had any appearance have any of video games, before his creation.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by B » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:37 pm

Heroes incorporating Bardock wouldn't be an issue with Episode of Bardock linking up to the official story. I don't think... Heroes is completely it's own thing that already borrows from everything else.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:44 pm

It's up for you to decide, apart for the manga I view BoG, EoB, the 2008 OVA and the TV special about Bardock all to be canon.

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Post by Low Tone G » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:58 pm

For now it is sure that the Trunks special and the Bardock TV special are canon.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:59 pm

They made references to Tarble in BOG, so we know it happens. If they mention it then it's canon in my book. Episode of Bardock could be canon to the manga, but not the anime since the origins for Planet Plant seem to be different. The Trunks TV special is not canon to the manga since Trunks was already a SSj and the TV special came out afterwards.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by Herms » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:25 pm

People seem to have strange ideas about what "official" means. Obviously Episode of Bardock and the JSAT special are "official parts" of DB. They're both official products put out by the rights holders of the franchise, just like DB SD and Heroes. It's not something that has anything to do with the fictional chronology of the DB universe, and it's not something determined by fan opinion. "Official" and "canonical" aren't the same thing.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by Low Tone G » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:36 pm

"Official" and "canonical" aren't the same thing.
I used intentionally the official, because someones don't like the "canon" word for some reason, while I think it's obvious that I'm meaning canon, of course. :P
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:45 pm

From what I remember that the story in the 2008 Jump Special was based on a idea from AT. AT had nothing to do with Episode of Bardock's story.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by Low Tone G » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:54 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:From what I remember that the story in the 2008 Jump Special was based on a idea from AT. AT had nothing to do with Episode of Bardock's story.
As I remember, the EOB cover contains AT's name: Original Concept: Akira Toriyama, Drawn by: Ooishi Naho.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by penguintruth » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:19 pm

I will never accept Episode of Bardock as canon. I'd sooner accept Jaco the Patrolman.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:35 pm

Yo Son Goku is canon.

Episode of Fanfic isnt.
I too refuse to accept it as canon.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by sangofe » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:54 am

There isn't any "Tarble OVA".

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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by Low Tone G » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:31 am

sangofe wrote:There isn't any "Tarble OVA".
You're right, but it was just to simplify.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by B » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:45 am

Herms wrote:"Official" and "canonical" aren't the same thing.
But whenever someone uses the term "canon" someone usually jumps in with "I didn't know DB was scripture!" or something akin to that. Isn't it fairly obvious what is being asked? Do we always have to write out "fits with the 42-volume manga"?

Anyway, I don't have a problem with either special/film/OVA/over-twenty-minute-piece-of-animated-story being accepted into the continuity of the manga. There's no glaring continuity errors, and certainly not more than already exist within the manga itself. EoB can pretty much be handwaved as taking place in another timeline/history, if you are so inclined.
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Re: Are Episode of Bardock and Tarble OVA official parts of

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:36 pm

If you take the fact that DBZ: Battle of Gods takes place in the official history as that it takes place in the manga continuity, then the JSAT Special would be dragged in as well, since Tarble is mentioned. I would also chose the manga adaptation of the special over the animated special, because Toriyama liked that one more.

As for DB: Episode of Bardock (manga), Chozenshuu #1, a manga-based guidebook, covers it, and the recent volume release is designed like it's an extra volume of the original manga, so take that as you will.
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