Unpopular DB opinions

[TheGmGoken]

This might come off as unexpected(mainly because I just finish re-watching Dragonball and vastly prefer it to Z) but I think Vegeta isn't worthy of being Goku's rival. Now in my opinion the only reason why they're "rivals" is because Vegeta is the only one who can keep up with Goku training wise and because of Super Saiyan forms. Yea Vegeta got a grudge. But Goku rivals in Dragonball was MUCH better(even when Goku surpass them on another level) and better executed. However from Vegeta point of view. The rivalry was epic and amazing I admit. Just wish we saw more from Goku's point of view. Besides gag scenes.

[DBZAOTA482]

On another hand, I absolutely LOVE the Space Orphans filler. I just love the atmosphere of it, and how it sets up Freeza.

I also like Fake Namek mainly because I always liked the adventure parts of the series.

I also liked Space Orphans but Fake Namek sucked real bad.

[ABED]

This might come off as unexpected(mainly because I just finish re-watching Dragonball and vastly prefer it to Z) but I think Vegeta isn't worthy of being Goku's rival. Now in my opinion the only reason why they're "rivals" is because Vegeta is the only one who can keep up with Goku training wise and because of Super Saiyan forms. Yea Vegeta got a grudge. But Goku rivals in Dragonball was MUCH better(even when Goku surpass them on another level) and better executed. However from Vegeta point of view. The rivalry was epic and amazing I admit. Just wish we saw more from Goku's point of view. Besides gag scenes.

To be fair, we did see it from Goku's POV. After losing to Vegeta, he was preoccupied with becoming better than him, but that fell away when he completely outclassed him. Goku has a much healthier view of their rivalry than Vegeta does.

Goku rivals in Dragonball was MUCH better

I assume you're referring to Tenshinhan and Piccolo.

[TheGmGoken]

I assume you're referring to Tenshinhan and Piccolo.

And Krillin "BrotherHood' rivalry. Krillin-Goku rivalry was that similar to brothers being rivals. Well...brothers of the same age. The way they interacted at the Tenkaichi Budokai was nice and the anime said they even competed in height

[ABED]

I assume you're referring to Tenshinhan and Piccolo.

And Krillin "BrotherHood' rivalry. Krillin-Goku rivalry was that similar to brothers being rivals. Well...brothers of the same age. The way they interacted at the Tenkaichi Budokai was nice and the anime said they even competed in height

To me, that's a pretty short (see what I did there?) rivalry. By the time the Budokai comes around, they aren't really rivals. What moments imply rivalry to you? Are you thinking about the 22nd Budokai? I'll take that.

[TheGmGoken]

I assume you're referring to Tenshinhan and Piccolo.

And Krillin "BrotherHood' rivalry. Krillin-Goku rivalry was that similar to brothers being rivals. Well...brothers of the same age. The way they interacted at the Tenkaichi Budokai was nice and the anime said they even competed in height

To me, that's a pretty short (see what I did there?) rivalry. By the time the Budokai comes around, they aren't really rivals. What moments imply rivalry to you? Are you thinking about the 22nd Budokai? I'll take that.

As I said. Brotherhood rivalry. Which isn't really "Rivals". Just they compete a lot. Hard to explain really. The 22nd Budokai is what I was mentioning btw. Also nice...pun if that's what it's called.

[RandomGuy96]

Krillin was never even in Goku's league.

[TheGmGoken]

Krillin was never even in Goku's league.

Someone doesn't understand what a brotherhood "rivalry" is. How it's different from the regular rival.

[RocktheDragon]

This might come off as unexpected(mainly because I just finish re-watching Dragonball and vastly prefer it to Z) but I think Vegeta isn't worthy of being Goku's rival. Now in my opinion the only reason why they're "rivals" is because Vegeta is the only one who can keep up with Goku training wise and because of Super Saiyan forms. Yea Vegeta got a grudge. But Goku rivals in Dragonball was MUCH better(even when Goku surpass them on another level) and better executed. However from Vegeta point of view. The rivalry was epic and amazing I admit. Just wish we saw more from Goku's point of view. Besides gag scenes.

I guess the question is, what makes a good rival? I find Vegeta to be the best rival Goku ever had because he has a strong connection to him and Goku really stands for everything Vegeta hates (at least at first). I love that Goku is pretty much the opposite of Vegeta in personality and the way he approaches fights with not wanting to harm people needlessly. Also, Goku really embraces the human side of himself and Vegeta has much more Saiyan pride.

[Kid Buu]

Out of Goku's rivalries I enjoyed his one with Tenshinhan the most.

One thing I noticed about Goku/Vegeta is that they barely interact outside of their two fights until the Vegetto/Kid Buu stuff happens. I didn't notice this as a kid due to stuff like Movie 6.

[MediaFanGirl93]

Out of Goku's rivalries I enjoyed his one with Tenshinhan the most.

One thing I noticed about Goku/Vegeta is that they barely interact outside of their two fights until the Vegetto/Kid Buu stuff happens. I didn't notice this as a kid due to stuff like Movie 6.

Yeah, not to mention, Tenshinhan is a very interesting, underrated character. I found him to be one of the most useful characters, despite naysayers who think he's useless.

While I do love Goku and Vegeta's friendship, I find it to be the most overrated frendships, honestly, because I don't think they were close/close until the end of the whole Goku vs. Majin Vegeta fight.

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Here are a few more unpopular opinions I have:

#1. I think Yamcha and Chi-Chi have got to be the most over-hated characters in this fandom, I feel the hate they get is completely undeserved. With Yamcha, I do think fans ignore his good qualities and exaggerate how "weak" he is with the whole memes of him involving the Magikarp, and it's annoying how fans demonize him by making him look like a devil compared to characters like Vegeta.

With Chi-Chi, while it's completely understandable how fans may don't like her because of how the Funi dub portrays her by exaggerating her anger and making her out to be an awful bitch, I do think fans ignore her redeeming qualities and make her outright hateful in fanfics and make her look like a tyrant/abusive mother/person compared to other characters like Bulma and Vegeta, who have done far worse than what she did. Some fans even outright say that she doesn't deserve to be in the Son Family.

#2. I don't hate GT Pan at all. She's not my favorite female, but I don't think she's the worse and fans do exaggerate how "bad" she is, when really, all she does is act like an annoying younger sibling.

#3. I love calling Beers "Bills." I remember almost getting into an argument with someone on which name to call him even though "Beers" is the official, but I still like calling him "Bills" regardless. It's a personal nickname for me.

#4. I love Adult Gohan, despite him being "nerdy" and less concerned with fighting later in life. I mean, Gohan admitted that he wanted to be a scholar (anyone who doesn't believe me, I have proof that Toriyama said it). I mean, not every Saiyan has to be a fighter like Goku and Vegeta. Plus, Gohan actuall managed to be a decent father (not the best, but decent) and husband.

[thatdbzguy]

Dragon Ball did every single thing better than Z, and Toriyama should have never bothered with Z.

Although, this may be a pretty popular opinion, actually.

[ABED]

Dragon Ball did every single thing better than Z, and Toriyama should have never bothered with Z.

Although, this may be a pretty popular opinion, actually.

To who?

[thatdbzguy]

Dragon Ball did every single thing better than Z, and Toriyama should have never bothered with Z.

Although, this may be a pretty popular opinion, actually.

To who?

The more dedicated DB fans.

[ABED]

I'm not so sure that's true. Plenty of people like both series. Just because one is liked more than the other doesn't mean we can't enjoy both.

[RandomGuy96]

Bar one or two good parts (Goku vs Piccolo at the 23rd, King Piccolo in general), the pre-Raditz portions are mostly crap.

[thatdbzguy]

I'm not so sure that's true. Plenty of people like both series. Just because one is liked more than the other doesn't mean we can't enjoy both.

It's true. The more intelligent DB fans see how Z is inferior to DB in every way, so even if they do happen to enjoy Z, they wouldn't lose any sleep if it happened to vanish off the face of the Earth.

[thatdbzguy]

Bar one or two good parts (Goku vs Piccolo at the 23rd, King Piccolo in general), the pre-Raditz portions are mostly crap.

The parts with actual adventure, humor, meaningful rivalries, technical fights, and charm were crap?

[RandomGuy96]

"More intelligent DBZ fans"? Okay, now you're just being an ass.

The humor wasn't funny (Buu arc is funnier), the fights were either boring stomps or unfunny gags (bar a few exceptions), there was way too much "I stomp you cause my power is bigger", and the rivalries sucked because all of the so called rivals were total failures who existed solely to get stomped by Goku then spend a bunch of their screen time verbally sucking his dick.

The only parts I'd describe as well done are the final fight at the 23rd and most of the darker parts of the King Piccolo arc. Like when Goku found Krillin's body.

[superfunk]

Dragon Ball did every single thing better than Z, and Toriyama should have never bothered with Z.

Although, this may be a pretty popular opinion, actually.

Yeah, but Z Is more popular than DB, I would take a bet that this site wouldn't even exist and that we wouldnt be talking about the franchise if z never existed.It raised the fanbase exponentially.