How strong is Mecha Frieza?

[Origibros]

Some say that on earth he was at half power, some say he was stronger than Namek SSJ Goku, I'm not sure where I put him, what do you think? Any feats or evidence from the japanese text?

[dbgtFO]

Freeza himself thought he had powered up to such an extent, he could probably deal with Goku alone.
When Freeza and King Cold arrived, Gohan stated Freeza wasn't putting out his full power, but after Trunks killed Freeza no one confirmed, that Freeza was stronger than on Namek.
Added to the fact, that he doesn't a visual power-up like on Namek, it gives off the impression, that he attacked Trunks without using his full power.

[Mystic Buu]

Mecha Freeza was probably stronger than Goku on Namek but I think that he was suppressed because Trunks lifted Supernova with a finger.

[KentalSSJ6]

Mecha Freeza was probably stronger than Goku on Namek but I think that he was suppressed because Trunks lifted Supernova with a finger.

And Goku was stronger than he was on Namek. If Goku and Mech Freeza fought again like they did in Future Trunk's timeline, it would have likely been a repeat of their fight on Namek with at the most, some difficulty since Cold was there as well. Then again, Trunks says in his timeline that Goku beat them both so I guess your answer is right there.

[Duo]

The whole thing happens so quick in the manga, it's hard to tell if Freeza put out his real power or not. He fires a blast at Trunks right after he goes Super Saiyan, then Trunks splits him. I would guess Freeza wasn't boasting about becoming stronger, but it just...didn't matter, so there's not really a point to even trying to figure it out.

[TTC817]

I would place Mecha Frieza's power at about the same as Frieza's 100% Max Power state on Namek, albeit without the limited energy time he had to use the form when on Namek. My theory is the mechanical parts give him that strength unlimitedly and he no longer has to worry about his energy running out.

[Insertclevername]

If anything, he's probably weaker due to losing pretty much 60% of his entire body. I'm not really sure how ki works in this situation but I can assume if you're severely injured to the point where you need robotic prosthetic, you're probably never going to obtain your prime strength ever again. Also it's ridiculous to assume he got stronger since the robotic prosthetic aren't natural and therefor have no impact on his ki.

[Friezacooler]

Strong enough to solo the base Saiyans, Mystic Gohan included, according to Beerus.

[KentalSSJ6]

Strong enough to solo base saiyan's, Mystic Gohan included according to Bills/Birusu.

Pretty sure your just trolling at this point.

Mecha Freeza > Mystic Gohan? Seriously?

[Kaboom]

Strong enough to solo the base Saiyans, Mystic Gohan included, according to Beerus.

I'll assume you're just being facetious, right...?

[Herms]

If anything, he's probably weaker due to losing pretty much 60% of his entire body. I'm not really sure how ki works in this situation but I can assume if you're severely injured to the point where you need robotic prosthetic, you're probably never going to obtain your prime strength ever again. Also it's ridiculous to assume he got stronger since the robotic prosthetic aren't natural and therefor have no impact on his ki.

But then, the following storyline is chock full of cyborgs and robots way stronger than Freeza was. If anything, the strongest bad guy in the universe becoming even stronger via cybernetics nicely sets the stage for Gero's creations.

[Fionordequester]

Isn't it a bit of a mistake to assume that Mecha Freeza stood a chance just because he says he did? We saw how delusional he was on Namek, so how is he anymore believable as a cyborg than he was on Namek?

[Duo]

Isn't it a bit of a mistake to assume that Mecha Freeza stood a chance just because he says he did? We saw how delusional he was on Namek, so how is he anymore believable as a cyborg than he was on Namek?

And that's why the situation is hardly worth looking into...because lotsa characters say things that aren't really true about their power.

Though Herms raises a good point as well, it was a fairly functional precursor to the whole "cybernetic power up" thing the Cell arc had going for it, just as the Majin Buu arc had "magical power up" (Vegeta, Gohan, fusion, Buu in general) going for it.

[B]

In History/Timeline 1, Goku manages to kill both Freeza and Cold before getting his heart virus, so if he is any stronger than when he was on Namek, it shouldn't be anything significant.

[Insertclevername]

If anything, he's probably weaker due to losing pretty much 60% of his entire body. I'm not really sure how ki works in this situation but I can assume if you're severely injured to the point where you need robotic prosthetic, you're probably never going to obtain your prime strength ever again. Also it's ridiculous to assume he got stronger since the robotic prosthetic aren't natural and therefor have no impact on his ki.

But then, the following storyline is chock full of cyborgs and robots way stronger than Freeza was. If anything, the strongest bad guy in the universe becoming even stronger via cybernetics nicely sets the stage for Gero's creations.

True but Freeza's cybernetics were implied to act more as a prosthetic whereas the Artificial Human's cybernetics were specifically stated to be enhancements. So, similar technology, different functions. It would also lessen the significance of Dr. Gero's work if Freeza's empire were able to make cyborg enhancements in the same vein as his own.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

If anything, he's probably weaker due to losing pretty much 60% of his entire body. I'm not really sure how ki works in this situation but I can assume if you're severely injured to the point where you need robotic prosthetic, you're probably never going to obtain your prime strength ever again. Also it's ridiculous to assume he got stronger since the robotic prosthetic aren't natural and therefor have no impact on his ki.

But it is stated that Freeza had gotten stronger than he was.

Chapter: 329 (DBZ 135), P14.1
Cold: “A small planet…Wouldn’t it be better if you just wiped it out in one shot?”
Freeza: “That wouldn’t satisfy me…I want to make [Goku] well acquainted with my powered-up self…”

Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Cold: “The Earthlings don’t matter, but the Super Saiyan alone we absolutely must exterminate, by any means. The one who holds the greatest power in the universe must without a doubt be our clan”
Freeza: “We can definitely defeat him if we go at him together, Papa. And I’ve powered up too, so I think I can probably go alone.”

[Insertclevername]

...This is why I hate posting in the In-Universe section. Someone always comes along with some quote that completely debunks on my idea.

[Pantalones]

I figure his maximum (which he may not have actually been putting out yet by the time he was killed) would've been slightly higher than his 100% was before if he was talking about being powered-up and how that power-up would make it possible for him to beat Goku alone, and guaranteed if he brought his dad in at the same time.

Did he actually get enough of a boost to be able to beat Goku alone? Well, considering that we know that "post-Yardrat" Goku killed both of them on his own in Trunks' timeline, we already know the answer to that: definitely not, especially not in the case of the Goku of that time period who would've been strong enough to beat both him and Cold together.

Did he get stronger than SSj Goku was on Namek? I guess it's possible, but probably not. Freeza has a pretty serious "assume you're stronger than anyone even when proven otherwise" problem, so he probably thinks his and Goku's fight was a lot closer than it actually was--which would mean he'd assume a small boost would be enough to win. He doesn't seem to account for the possibility that Goku's gotten stronger too, either (and how would he? he's got no experience with Goku's growth rate or what kind of training he might have done on Yardrat, knows nothing about how fast power increases after someone gets Super Saiyan, and even what he knows about regular Saiyans probably doesn't help since no other Saiyan in history seems to have gotten such ridiculously huge near-death boosts.)

There's also the hints that Future Trunks wasn't much stronger than Gohan was when he died, and that Gohan himself still looked up to Goku's power (presumably this is the post-Yardrat Goku who finally killed Freeza/Cold? that would probably be just about the last time Gohan saw Goku at full strength before the heart virus weakened him in that timeline) as if he hadn't reached that level yet. Which means Trunks doesn't have much room to be a lot stronger than Namek SSj Goku, and look at how easily he managed to finish off Freeza and King Cold.

What Freeza thinks: After powering up, me and Dad can definitely beat this guy! I might even be able to beat him alone!
Reality: After powering up, Freeza and his dad would still get killed by Goku!

[RandomGuy96]

He only got killed off quickly because he didn't power up.

And it'd be quite silly if Yardrat Goku wasn't stronger than Namek Goku. He was training for 2 years and Trunks, who was equal to or (going by the anime) greater than Namek Goku, was awed by Yardrat Goku's power.

[Fionordequester]

He only got killed off quickly because he didn't power up.

I don't believe that you could know that for sure.