Buu Saga Kai

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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Kendamu » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:46 pm

There are only two words FUNimation needs to use to clear up the conflicting information without actually revealing anything one way or another:

"Stay tuned." :wink:

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Post by qjz123 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:57 pm

Kendamu wrote:There are only two words FUNimation needs to use to clear up the conflicting information without actually revealing anything one way or another:

"Stay tuned." :wink:
That would imply that there is something in the works whereas Christopher Sabat is trying to convince us that they haven't even decided if they're going to dub the Buu saga of Kai.
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Kendamu » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:10 pm

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Kendamu wrote:There are only two words FUNimation needs to use to clear up the conflicting information without actually revealing anything one way or another:

"Stay tuned." :wink:
That would imply that there is something in the works whereas Christopher Sabat is trying to convince us that they haven't even decided if they're going to dub the Buu saga of Kai.
They can say whatever they want. They could say, "Dragon Ball Z Kai? What's that? We've never even heard of it! Get out of here with your crazy talk and stupid fan rumors, you piece of garbage!" As long as they follow it up with, "Stay tuned," afterwards, you know that they're just unable to show their hand just yet, but they didn't technically break any sort of NDA.

FUNimation does it all the time. It's like their (open) secret code or something.

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Post by Fennekin » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:31 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Ok just saving Vortexx and Nicktoons. These guys are the only ones airing anime at kids right now.
Cartoon Network?

Anyways, why must you always bring up Vortexx and Nicktoons? That's not the issue right now.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:35 pm

Fennekin wrote:
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Ok just saving Vortexx and Nicktoons. These guys are the only ones airing anime at kids right now.
Cartoon Network?

Anyways, why must you always bring up Vortexx and Nicktoons? That's not the issue right now.
What anime is on CN now? I guess you mean Toonami

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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Fennekin » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:37 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:What anime is on CN now?
Pokémon, Beyblade, Tenkai Knights come to mind.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:44 pm

Fennekin wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:What anime is on CN now?
Pokémon, Beyblade, Tenkai Knights come to mind.
Hold the phone. Pokemon is still going on? I haven't seen or heard anything in ages(Anime) besides Origins.

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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Gonstead » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:21 pm

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TheGmGoken wrote:What anime is on CN now?
Pokémon, Beyblade, Tenkai Knights come to mind.
Hold the phone. Pokemon is still going on? I haven't seen or heard anything in ages(Anime) besides Origins.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:50 pm

Flame Dragon wrote:Why would Sean Schemmel lie?? I can understand Sabat lying to wait for official announcement, but Sean's lie on the other hand seems like it would be quite counterproductive and a bad PR move in my opinion.
If they never had even bought the Buu Saga, what would they gain from making us think otherwise?
Which is odd because then we must question his knowledge on Ocean kai. Now that there is news that there is no plans to dub it (yet)...i wonder whats going on?

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:38 am

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Flame Dragon wrote:Why would Sean Schemmel lie?? I can understand Sabat lying to wait for official announcement, but Sean's lie on the other hand seems like it would be quite counterproductive and a bad PR move in my opinion.
If they never had even bought the Buu Saga, what would they gain from making us think otherwise?
Which is odd because then we must question his knowledge on Ocean kai. Now that there is news that there is no plans to dub it (yet)...i wonder whats going on?
Again, we don't know if this is "news." We have a lot of reason to suspect that this is a lie, and likely one that FUNimation has asked them to say.

Also, it's important to note who "they" are (referring to Flame Dragon's post). FUNimation has, to this day, not made any sort of official comment regarding the Buu saga of Kai, and Schemmel, Hebert, and Sabat are not technically FUNimation employees so much as they are freelance contractors. So any statement they make is not necessarily indicative of anything FUNimation wants to say.
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Post by DerekPadula » Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:55 am

I received a reply from Sean Schemmel and I updated the article at the bottom.

http://thedaoofdragonball.com/blog/news ... all-z-kai/

"I’m sorry to say that I cannot comment on the Buu saga at this time."

Classic NDA response.

I changed the title of the article from "Is not dubbing" to "Has not dubbed," because according to Reddit I am a sinful and manipulative person for writing in the present tense.

To repeat myself here, if Chris has to comply with an NDA, then why confirm twice in the negative, rather than say nothing? It’s one thing to do what Sean did and say that he can’t talk about it, it’s an altogether different thing to say “No,” followed by another “No.”

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:00 am

DerekPadula wrote:I received a reply from Sean Schemmel and I updated the article at the bottom.

http://thedaoofdragonball.com/blog/news ... all-z-kai/

"I’m sorry to say that I cannot comment on the Buu saga at this time."

Classic NDA response.

I changed the title of the article from "Is not dubbing" to "Has not dubbed," because according to Reddit I am a sinful and manipulative person for writing in the present tense.

To repeat myself here, if Chris has to comply with an NDA, then why confirm twice in the negative, rather than say nothing? It’s one thing to do what Sean did and say that he can’t talk about it, it’s an altogether different thing to say “No,” followed by another “No.”

Have we all become the victims of a classic Christopher Sabat prank?
That's what I suspect! :lol:
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."

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Post by DerekPadula » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:17 am

If so, then we fell victim to one of the world's classic blunders.

The most famous is to never get involved in a land war in Asia. But only slightly less well known is to never get involved with Christopher Sabat when DBZ IS ON THE LINE!! HAHAHAHAHA.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:53 am

Anyone else notice that, even though the Kai recut depleted the episode count to half of what it once was, it STILL kept ass-loads of arguably unnecessary filler? That means the majority of the Z anime was just filler/padding. It makes me wonder how much they're going to cut out of the Buu arc, as it's the longest saga in the series.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:Anyone else notice that, even though the Kai recut depleted the episode count to half of what it once was, it STILL kept ass-loads of arguably unnecessary filler? That means the majority of the Z anime was just filler/padding. It makes me wonder how much they're going to cut out of the Buu arc, as it's the longest saga in the series.
One twenty-one or so minute long episode could easily adapt three chapters of the comic, so yeah. 519/3 = 173 episodes. The 1986 and the 1989 series combined are 444 episodes.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:28 am

Yeah, I'm thinking that it's just an NDA thing. There's been too many hints along the way that it's already been being worked on.

I will literally laugh my ass off (no, seriously - it'll just pop right off) if we end up getting official confirmation and a trailer or something for Ocean Kai now before we get something out of FUNi for Boo Kai though. Let the chaos continue! :lol:
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Post by B » Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:30 am

A straight adaptation of the Buu arc probably shouldn't be more than 35 episodes, but that's not factoring all the "intertwined" filler of Z. Maybe they'll get 40 episodes out of it?
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Fennekin » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:06 am

If it turns out Sabat is indeed lying about the production because of his NDA, then that only backfires on Sabat himself. It would have been smarter for him to say nothing then to lie.

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Post by ABED » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:00 am

Schemmel, Hebert, and Sabat are not technically FUNimation employees so much as they are freelance contractors. So any statement they make is not necessarily indicative of anything FUNimation wants to say.
I do believe that Sabat is in fact a full time employee at FUNimation, whereas Sean and Hebert are independent contractors.
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