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by baneofdemon22 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:10 pm
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Majin Boo punching Babidi's head in, and Kuririn's first death.
GOOD PICK! I forgot about that!
Man, you guys picked a lot of fantastic ones. The first thing I thought of was Super Boo jumping down that guys' throat and making him burst, but there's plenty that could match that. The one where Majin Boo punched off Babidi's head might be my choice, because it was so sudden and brutal. It's scary, because Boo kept flipping on and off, I had no clue what to expect of the character after that.
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by B » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:48 pm
This is filler, and it's not nearly as gruesome as other deaths, or really at all, but Tambourine "saving" a Bear Dad and his Bear Son from Monster Beast Giran and then killing them was awful.
The anime did pretty damn good job of making you despise Tambourine.
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by TheDoc » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:00 pm
Most of the deaths of background extras are pretty gruesome (the old guy killed by 20, the old couple killed by that dude at the Boo arc, etc.), since their purpose is to show how bad the current villain is. In terms of more relevant characters, Babidi's death is pretty brutal. Also, Piccolo Daimao's death. Goku literally punches a hole trough his chest.
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by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:09 pm
ABED wrote:Polyphase Avatron wrote:That guy who Dr. Gero killed by crushing his neck
I assume you are referring to the far more graphic depiction in the manga where he decapitates the poor guy.
Less decapitation, more squeeze so hard his head just pops off.
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by TheGmGoken » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:45 pm
B wrote:This is filler, and it's not nearly as gruesome as other deaths, or really at all, but Tambourine "saving" a Bear Dad and his Bear Son from Monster Beast Giran and then killing them was awful.
The anime did pretty damn good job of making you despise Tambourine.
I was honestly was scared with Tambourine for a short while.
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by ABED » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:51 pm
baneofdemon22 wrote:ABED wrote:I have to go with the death of the old married couple by that prick and his manservant.
You're the only person that I've seen point that out. I love that scene. It feels so "real" to me, that people would be so sick to take advantage of such unfortunate circumstances and use it as a cover to perform more acts of evil.
I like the scene for the reason you mentioned, precisely because it is disturbing. That gets to me more than Buu killing entire cities.
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by baneofdemon22 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:42 pm
Yeah, I agree with you! Although it's not a death, the final spirit ball was also very disturbing to me. The way people refused to help. It made me think of God, which then reminded me of the Futurama quote of "Bender, being God isn't easy. If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope. You have to use a light touch, like a safecracker or a pickpocket.........When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all." The reason why Goku's "You Fool", is one of my favorite lines, is because it made me think how many times God gives people chances to help themselves and still choose to be evil. That disturbed me, because I want to believe even the most evil people can change and we can rationalize with them, but we can't. I don't know if you had those hokey assemblies with a counselor or those small breaks in elementary school where you had to watch those videos about bullying, but they don't work! Logically they make sense, but most of the time, it will just cause you to get beat up or bullied more, and it's unfortunate.
Those kind of things are what put Dragonball Z above a lot of shows for me.
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by SSDBZGOD » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:02 pm
I would have to say out of all the characters death, Krillin's death by the hands of Tanbarin in the original Dragon Ball franchise was the most disturbing. I mean, come on, who didn't think that scene was wicked.
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by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:08 pm
baneofdemon22 wrote:DBZAOTA482 wrote:Majin Boo punching Babidi's head in, and Kuririn's first death.
GOOD PICK! I forgot about that!
Man, you guys picked a lot of fantastic ones. The first thing I thought of was Super Boo jumping down that guys' throat and making him burst, but there's plenty that could match that. The one where Majin Boo punched off Babidi's head might be my choice, because it was so sudden and brutal. It's scary, because Boo kept flipping on and off, I had no clue what to expect of the character after that.
It also doesn't help that it was when Majin Boo was actually interesting as a villain (though Super Boo was alright before he started absorbing people).
Oh, and I forgot when that guy killed Majin Boo's puppy. Easily the most disturbing death of all.
fadeddreams5 wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:29 pm
ABED wrote:Polyphase Avatron wrote:That guy who Dr. Gero killed by crushing his neck
I assume you are referring to the far more graphic depiction in the manga where he decapitates the poor guy.
Yeah, that was brutal
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by SSJ3_Zack » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:10 pm
I'm probably in the minority here but back when I was a child, the most disturbing death for then was when the female Kaioshin was killed by Kid Boo. I don't know why that stuck with me for years.
. I also find Android 17's "death" when he was absorbed by Cell to be disturbing.
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by thempafighter » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:35 pm
I'd say one of the most gruesome I've seen is Gohan's neck snapped by Recoome. That just scared me. But it wasn't exactly a death.
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by penguintruth » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:15 pm
I'd say getting killed by a blow from a human tongue is pretty disturbing.
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by LordCrumb » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:16 pm
Z Warrior Involved (Near death): Dr Gero pushing his hand through Yamcha.. the cracking of the bones... nice.
Actual Death: Majin Buu strangling Babidi then punching his head off.
Civilian Death: The elderly husband and wife, just walking down the road... then the wife gets shot, and the husband has no idea what's going on.. he's shot, then he just manages to crawl to his wife and then dies. Disturning because it was done by just a regular man for no reason other than the thrill of it.
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by Wobbuffet » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:40 pm
How about Freeza impaling Kuririn with his horn? Sure, he didn't die, but think about this for a second: you and your friends are fighting an alien who is only playing with you, and can kill you whenever he feels like. There's nowhere to run. Your deaths are just a matter of time. Then, suddenly, the time comes. The alien kills one of your friends. The alien is willing to kill. There's nothing you can do about that. You are going to die.
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by dario03 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:36 pm
Wobbuffet wrote:How about Freeza impaling Kuririn with his horn? Sure, he didn't die, but think about this for a second: you and your friends are fighting an alien who is only playing with you, and can kill you whenever he feels like. There's nowhere to run. Your deaths are just a matter of time. Then, suddenly, the time comes. The alien kills one of your friends. The alien is willing to kill. There's nothing you can do about that. You are going to die.
I found Freeza actually killing Krillin more disturbing. You think you have finally killed the alien that has just been messing with you the whole time. You're standing around celebrating when out of no where the alien pops back up, nearly kills one of your friends and then attacks your other friend. Then all you can do is plead with the laughing alien to stop it as he throws your friend up into the air and then smirks as he makes him explode from the inside out (while your friend is screaming your name to help him (though he only yells "help me" in the Funi dub of Z).
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by DerekPadula » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:57 am
When Goku jump kicks Drum in the head and makes his frickin' eyeballs pop out!
It's so fast and brutal. One minute Drum is mopping the floor with Tenshinhan's butt, and one motion blur later Goku kicks his damn eyeballs out of their sockets! Purple blood all over the place.
This isn't the most disturbing to me in light of the other examples given here, but it is the most gnarly in recent memory because I just read it yesterday. And he's a 15 year old boy, ya know?
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by Fizzer » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:41 am
Reading these makes me realise just how violent this series is at times. The worst one for me is the senseless murder of the old couple.
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by Wibbs » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:51 am
Fizzer wrote:Reading these makes me realise just how violent this series is at times. The worst one for me is the senseless murder of the old couple.
When was that. In DragonBall or Z?
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by TheGreatness25 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:29 am
I still think Kuririn's death is the most disturbing because it was the saddest along with Roshi and Chaozu. All the deaths after that kind of lose their sting because it's like, "Oh it's okay, he'll just get wished back with the Dragon Ball." Kuririn's death was simple and there were way more crazy deaths after, but they just never hit as hard.
