"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Blade]

And out of all of them, only two (Vegetto and Gogeta) actually make tangible, in-universe sense. :/

SSJ3 Vegeta works. He was stronger than Goku in Battle of Gods, so for all we know he was already capable of it. By GT, no sweat (from the standpoint of using GT or just its chronology from Z, it works).

Not really. In Battle of Gods, one would suspect if he was capable of using Super Saiyan 3 against Birus, he would have done. I don't know where you're getting the idea that he was stronger than Goku from the outset - or if that's what you're even implying, but I think Roshi's assertion that the enraged Vegeta surpassed Goku and Vegeta's little comment at the end of the film don't necessarily amount to logical cause to believe that he's suddenly capable of transforming to that level. If anything, those two little comments, if taken totally literally, just totally throw any kind of established in-universe multiplier down the pan, or at the very least into chaos.

As for GT - again, I'm not following you. If it's 'no sweat' for Vegeta to jump to Super Saiyan 3 at this point, then one has to wonder why he never used the level during one of the many ass-kickings he received. He could have certainly used the boost in strength a couple of times, put it that way - even if its doubtful whether it would have made any real difference.

I could go for some more Episode of Bardock-type promotions. What-ifs can be fun but transformations don't really mean anything without a story to set them up. Just seeing the design for an adult Gotenks doesn't do anything for me.
I also have to wonder if the fan service element even matters to the younger children they are trying to sell this game to.

I think in the case of adult Gotenks, the appeal is sort of in the fact that GT did kind of tease the idea for a moment before quickly pulling the rug from beneath its feat as so to speak. It was sort of set up by an in-universe story, the same way that Gokule was - which I think is both kind of cool, and just a little bit odd, that we have had to wait so long to see an official depiction of what the character would look like.

I think that kind of stuff can be pretty cool, as it makes sense in-universe and doesn't just feel like a gratuitous ascribing of Super Saiyan forms to every available candidate for the sake of it.

[KentalSSJ6]

Anyone else want Neko Majin avatars?

[goku the krump dancer]

I'd scarcely accept SS3 Vegeta as "AF nonsense" being the whole hitting the limits at the End of Z.

Where does it say that he hit his limit and can't get any stronger ?

You missed the part where I said "debate". There're implications that Vegeta and Goku were hitting their limits toward the end of Z yet there are other statements claiming otherwise I.e there are no "absolute limits".

[JeffJarrett]

Anyone else want Neko Majin avatars?

Neko Majin will be a support like the Robots and the V-Jump dino, he has the dino's V on his belly.

[DongHyun]

i hope new character!!!
songoku+songohan potara fusion!

[DNA]

I'd scarcely accept SS3 Vegeta as "AF nonsense" being the whole hitting the limits at the End of Z.

Where does it say that he hit his limit and can't get any stronger ?

You missed the part where I said "debate". There're implications that Vegeta and Goku were hitting their limits toward the end of Z yet there are other statements claiming otherwise I.e there are no "absolute limits".

Side tracking a bit here, but the idea might be that one has limits according to their current body. The Elder Namekian unlocked Gohan's potential when he was about 5 and that was all he had, at the time. Then Elder Kaioshin unlocked all Gohan had at that current time, and now he's shown to turn into Super Saiyan again because maybe it turned out that it's relevant again and it gives him a bigger power boost. It's not like one has an eternal cap on potential from birth until death, it seems to change with maturity, which makes sense.

[JeffJarrett]

I hope they don't forget to add Yakon as a playable character.

[Blade]

I hope they don't forget to add Yakon as a playable character.

Oh Heavens! God forbid that they overlook Yakon!

[BlazingBarrrager]

I'm really liking that they're adding minor characters as playable choices.

[Eddie]

Huh, based on that one, it looks like the female Super Saiyan 3 loses her eyebrows, but doesn't gain the ridges.

No, there are some very lite lines that shape the brows towards the ears, but she doesn't have the part that pushes together between the eyes.

Is it just me, or does that Namekian have a vaguely Evolution look?

[JeffJarrett]

Yeah! They gave him Evolution Piccolo's armor Dimps is making this game and the also made the PSP Evolution game, so they might add Evolution skins!!

[Hellspawn28]

They might use ideas from the DBE armor, but I highly doubt we see anything DBE related in Heroes.

[Eddie]

They might use ideas from the DBE armor, but I highly doubt we see anything DBE related in Heroes.

Don't you rip away my dreams of Fu-Lums and Carey Fuller, damn you. Don't do it!

[Chuquita]

To me, that armor looks like he's wearing a namekian spaceship, or maybe namekian astronaut gear.

[TheGmGoken]

YES! SSj3 Female looks amazing. Well done. What if we got evolution cards

[DNA]

What's with people's sudden obsession with Evolution? Can't we just let that thing die? You know, like the other live action movies died?

[Eddie]

People still talk about Batman & Robin. I don't see how not talking about bad things is a good thing. Future generations need to know about Geeko so that these mistakes aren't repeated. Trust me, I learned it from daytime television. Bro.

I'm so sorry.

[DNA]

People still talk about Batman & Robin. I don't see how not talking about bad things is a good thing. Future generations need to know about Geeko so that these mistakes aren't repeated. Trust me, I learned it from daytime television. Bro.

I'm so sorry. :P

Opinions I don't necessarily fully agree with but still, why would/should Evolution be relevant to Heroes in any capacity is beyond my comprehension.

[sintzu]

What's with people's sudden obsession with Evolution? Can't we just let that thing die? You know, like the other live action movies died?

That's what happens when a studio turns something so good into a so bad movie

Like this pice of gold :

http://mazika2day.com/images/images/590 ... 784312.jpg

Even though it's been 17 years since it came out and we had 3 amazing movies after it yet fans still talk about how bad it is like it's still 1997

[DBZGTKOSDH]

At least so far, all of the Super Saiyan 3 we've gotten make sense:

• Broli - He is the legendary Super Saiyan, and he is shown to still get big near-death power-ups. Had he survived somehow the 2nd battle, I can see him getting strong enough to transform.
• Vegeta - He is a fighting genius, and his power rivals that of Goku (when they're in the same form). With proper training, I can see him getting Super Saiyan 3, especially since he managed to achieve every for before that.
• Future Trunks - He is the only warrior left on his world, so it's logical to assume that he would keep training to get as strong as possible. He is also a 2nd generation Saiyan Halfling, and since he could easily turn SS without training, and Gotenks could turn SS3 with much less training than Goku, he should be able to make it after a few years, if he ever imagines its existence.
• Trunks - He is already very strong by the time of GT, so if he had sit his ass to train properly, plus the reasons for F. Trunks, he should manage to achieve the form.
• Future Gohan - He is a Saiyan Halfling with huge dormant power. If he had ever thought about mastering Super Saiyan, and if he had ever imagined of forms beyond it, he should be able to achieve it.
• Gogeta - If Goku & Vegeta have both SS3, they use Fusion like that and that's it.
• Vegetto - Goku had the form, so he should be able to transform.
• Saiyan Avatars - They are literally video-game versions of normal human kids. Everything is possible there.