Will Toei animation censor the buu saga of Kai like Toriko?

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Re: Will Toei animation censer the buu saga of Kai like Tori

Post by Naruto6583 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:56 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Well, is there anything for them to censor? The most bloody scenes I recall are the fights with Vegeta, which have Vegeta covered in blood. But I doubt they will censor these scenes, and it's not like they censored many things in Kai.

Plus, the Toriko manga has much, much, MUCH more blood that Dragon Ball ever had. It did need some censorship to play on TV, but I think they went too far.
Well it can happen sometimes editing will go too far.
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Re: Will Toei animation censer the buu saga of Kai like Tori

Post by JEFFMAN219 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:37 pm

Since now we no dragon ball kai is returning I wonder how much toai will censor out of it. Just look what they did to Toriko on episode 142 they completely changed the story and censored a whole lot of stuff from it.

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Re: Will Toei animation censer the buu saga of Kai like Tori

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:12 am

JEFFMAN219 wrote:Since now we no dragon ball kai is returning I wonder how much toai will censor out of it. Just look what they did to Toriko on episode 142 they completely changed the story and censored a whole lot of stuff from it.
I assume you have read the Toriko manga? The fights there are far, far, FAR more bloody & violent than it ever was in DB, especially in Boo arc. There is nothing serious here to censor.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Will Toei animation censer the buu saga of Kai like Tori

Post by kei17 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:58 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The fights there are far, far, FAR more bloody & violent than it ever was in DB, especially in Boo arc. There is nothing serious here to censor.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:13 am

Oh yeah... forgot about the scene with the old couple. :P
But that's because I had the fights in my mind, and the fights in Toriko are much more violent, so I understand why they censored it so heavily.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Will Toei animation censer the buu saga of Kai like Tori

Post by Cipher » Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:43 pm

Fulicer wrote:It seems like they clean up red blood more. I don't think Freeza's or King Cold's blood was censored. So maybe Piccolo's scene will be left as-is, assuming it's not condensed for time.
Actually, there is a scene in Goku vs Freeza fight where Freeza spits up a ridiculous amount of blood after being punched wherein the blood was removed in Kai.

That said, Kai seems really inconsistent with it. Spitting up blood seems like grounds for removal (Goku and Raditz's death, Vegeta's death on Namek, Freeeza), but things like Dr. Gero puncturing Yamcha with his arm are left as is, including blood dripping to the ground afterward.

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Re: Will Toei animation censer the buu saga of Kai like Tori

Post by Mewzard » Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:21 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
JEFFMAN219 wrote:Since now we no dragon ball kai is returning I wonder how much toai will censor out of it. Just look what they did to Toriko on episode 142 they completely changed the story and censored a whole lot of stuff from it.
I assume you have read the Toriko manga? The fights there are far, far, FAR more bloody & violent than it ever was in DB, especially in Boo arc. There is nothing serious here to censor.
Yeah, Dragon Ball's got nothing on Toriko.

Then again, Fist of the North Star was a thousand fold more violent even then, lol.

Saint Seiya and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure also had their fair share of violent scenes.

Given that particular age of Jump, Dragon Ball was actually one of the lesser violent series.
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Re: Will Toei animation censer the buu saga of Kai like Tori

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:32 pm

Cipher wrote:
Fulicer wrote:It seems like they clean up red blood more. I don't think Freeza's or King Cold's blood was censored. So maybe Piccolo's scene will be left as-is, assuming it's not condensed for time.
Actually, there is a scene in Goku vs Freeza fight where Freeza spits up a ridiculous amount of blood after being punched wherein the blood was removed in Kai.

That said, Kai seems really inconsistent with it. Spitting up blood seems like grounds for removal (Goku and Raditz's death, Vegeta's death on Namek, Freeeza), but things like Dr. Gero puncturing Yamcha with his arm are left as is, including blood dripping to the ground afterward.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:33 pm

Cipher wrote:
Fulicer wrote:It seems like they clean up red blood more. I don't think Freeza's or King Cold's blood was censored. So maybe Piccolo's scene will be left as-is, assuming it's not condensed for time.
Actually, there is a scene in Goku vs Freeza fight where Freeza spits up a ridiculous amount of blood after being punched wherein the blood was removed in Kai.

That said, Kai seems really inconsistent with it. Spitting up blood seems like grounds for removal (Goku and Raditz's death, Vegeta's death on Namek, Freeeza), but things like Dr. Gero puncturing Yamcha with his arm are left as is, including blood dripping to the ground afterward.
No it wasn't.

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Re: Will Toei animation censer the buu saga of Kai like Tori

Post by Cipher » Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:34 pm

That wasn't the one. I was thinking of one in the final portion of their physical battle, just before Goku "quits." It's in whatever that impeccably animated episode is.

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Post by Morgil » Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:13 am

ErikB wrote:
sintzu wrote:Was there anything worth censering ?
Well, there was the bit where Babidi makes a Tenkaichi Budoukai employee's head explode. He makes Spopovich's whole body explode too but it's...'cleaner' (in the anime anyway, in the manga you can see various parts of his body flying outward from the explosion).
Well, Kai did leave in a bit where Vegeta blew up a Saibaman, and you could see his body all distorted for a second, and afterwards there was a disembodied hand laying on the ground.

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Post by RocktheDragon » Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:02 pm

kei17 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The fights there are far, far, FAR more bloody & violent than it ever was in DB, especially in Boo arc. There is nothing serious here to censor.
Ah I totally forgot that this scene was even in the original manga! I have to say that I am the least familiar/remember the least from the Buu arc. I really have to re-read the manga chapters or I guess I can just wait for Kai to come out but I'd like to compare what was cut and toned down to what was not.
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Post by dodge2461 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:17 pm

sintzu wrote:Was there anything worth censering ?
There was Buu punching Babidi's head off....

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:43 pm

Kai already got censored before. One of the reasons why I don't like it.
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Re: Will Toei animation censor the buu saga of Kai like Tori

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:33 pm

JEFFMAN219 wrote:Do you guys think will Toei censer the buu saga of Kai like they did with the Toriko anime?
Are you implying Dragon Ball Kai wasn't censored? Well, then you need to rewatch it again and see it for yourself.

Censored parts I remember of Kai:
- Raditz & Goku have no bloody holes
- Vegeta's middle finger is gone and makes that scene odd to watch
- Vegeta doesn't spit out blood
- Freeza impailing Kuririn lasts less and has less blood

DBK was already censored but as if that wasn't enough Nicktoons and 4Kids went and done a lot more.

Edit: I hope they won't cut off the scene that prick kills off Mr. Satan's dog, this was one emotional scene out of the rest of the arc which felt very comedic overall.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:12 pm

- Freeza impailing Kuririn lasts less and has less blood
I agree on having less blood. But it lasting shorter was removing filler. That scene followed panel by panel of the manga.

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Re: Will Toei animation censor the buu saga of Kai like Tori

Post by JEFFMAN219 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:13 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
JEFFMAN219 wrote:Do you guys think will Toei censer the buu saga of Kai like they did with the Toriko anime?
Are you implying Dragon Ball Kai wasn't censored? Well, then you need to rewatch it again and see it for yourself.

Censored parts I remember of Kai:
- Raditz & Goku have no bloody holes
- Vegeta's middle finger is gone and makes that scene odd to watch
- Vegeta doesn't spit out blood
- Freeza impailing Kuririn lasts less and has less blood

DBK was already censored but as if that wasn't enough Nicktoons and 4Kids went and done a lot more.

Edit: I hope they won't cut off the scene that prick kills off Mr. Satan's dog, this was one emotional scene out of the rest of the arc which felt very comedic overall.
I know that Kai was censored but toei did not take out all of the blood like they did in the Toriko anime.

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:28 pm

A recent episode of Toriko had Sunny and his foe soaked in blood, so I have no doubt Fuji TV and Toei Animation do not care too much about blood.
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Post by Morgil » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:28 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:- Freeza impailing Kuririn lasts less and has less blood
I'm currently re-watching Kai and just got to that episode. Now, my memory on the original Z version is shaky, but in Kai that scene was still pretty brutal and had plenty of blood in it.

I reiterate, i have faith that Buu Kai will be just fine.
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Post by Super Sonic » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:26 am

Question if any Americans here have Toriko on dvd. Is it censored there, or less censored from its Japanese broadcast? Know quite a few of Funimation's fanservice shows' dvds have bare boobies on them, while their original Japanese broadcasts didn't. Heck, was just earlier watching the commentary on Maken-Ki, and Ian Sinclair and Scott Freeman said there were censor glares they saw when recording but heard the dvds wouldn't have them.

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