Why the Broly hate?

[VegettoEX]

Toriyama said that the writers of the Daizenshuu did a great job.

Toriyama has also praised the anime staff time and time again for various things. You either didn't know this or you're ignoring it to place your guide book viewpoint above it.

Stop making shit up just to nerf characters you don't like.

Nothing about this is OK. I will begin issuing strikes against your account from here-on-out if any more posts like this are made.

[ABED]

In any case, I've said my piece, I'm letting this go. It's probably better if we both do.

[RandomGuy96]

Toriyama said that the writers of the Daizenshuu did a great job.

Toriyama has also praised the anime staff time and time again for various things. You either didn't know this or you're ignoring it to place your guidebook viewpoint.

Did he ever compliment them for accuracy? Because that was the context of saying the writers of the D7 encyclopedia did a good job.

[MDSTSSJ]

4 year old Gohan crippled Raditz, who was at least 4 times as strong as Goku and Piccolo. Gohan would have smashed either Goku or Piccolo into a million pieces with that attack.

With head attack don't make more sense to me!!

Raditz have 1200. At that power level, his punches produce damage but did not kill any of the 2.

Goku and Piccolo without weighted clothes have more than 400 each. 3 times weaker than Raditz!

Enraged mini Gohan more than 1300. Gohan's head attack took Raditz by surprise and totally unprepared.

Makankōsappō ( more than 1400 in that time ) inflict way more damage and attack head is not even close to that.

That´s how I see it!

[Kamiccolo9]

4 year old Gohan crippled Raditz, who was at least 4 times as strong as Goku and Piccolo. Gohan would have smashed either Goku or Piccolo into a million pieces with that attack.

With head attack don't make more sense to me!!

Raditz have 1200. At that power level, his punches produce damage but did not kill any of the 2.

Goku and Piccolo without weighted clothes have more than 400 each. 3 times weaker than Raditz!

Enraged mini Gohan more than 1300. Gohan's head attack took Raditz by surprise and totally unprepared.

Makankōsappō ( more than 1400 in that time ) inflict way more damage and attack head is not even close to that.

That´s how I see it!

Practically every official source has Raditz at 1,500. Even if he were at 1,200, any attack capable of seriously injuring him would annihilate Goku and Piccolo, who are around 400. I'm not sure what the rest of your post has to do with anything.

[RandomGuy96]

You don't think a x3 advantage is enough to one shot? Krillin one shotted several Saibamen with generic ki blasts. He was 1,770 and they were 1,200.

[DBZAOTA482]

I never said pretend! Not once did I say that. I'm simply saying that Gohan isn't using his full effort. Serious, yes, but not full effort. It's SPARRING! You admit that, ergo, not them to their max.

I don't see how it being a sparring season automatically mean he's not going to use the full extent of his abilities. In many ways, doing so is detrimental to the learning process among other things.

[ABED]

I never said pretend! Not once did I say that. I'm simply saying that Gohan isn't using his full effort. Serious, yes, but not full effort. It's SPARRING! You admit that, ergo, not them to their max.

I don't see how it being a sparring season automatically mean he's not going to use the full extent of his abilities. In many ways, doing so is detrimental to the learning process among other things.

Going full out can result in injuries. Going full out is by definition not sparring.

[Kamiccolo9]

I never said pretend! Not once did I say that. I'm simply saying that Gohan isn't using his full effort. Serious, yes, but not full effort. It's SPARRING! You admit that, ergo, not them to their max.

I don't see how it being a sparring season automatically mean he's not going to use the full extent of his abilities. In many ways, doing so is detrimental to the learning process among other things.

If they were using the full extent of their abilities, then the planet would be dust. If nothing else, Vegeta's gravity chamber wouldn't have survived his sparring with Trunks.

[RandomGuy96]

That's why the whole Earth was destroyed near instantly by the titanic powers of Super Buu and Gotenks colliding.

...right?

Going full out can result in injuries. Going full out is by definition not sparring.

No, it wouldn't. Gohan wasn't even fighting back.

[Kamiccolo9]

That's why the whole Earth was destroyed near instantly by the titanic powers of Super Buu and Gotenks colliding.

...right?

Going full out can result in injuries. Going full out is by definition not sparring.

No, it wouldn't. Gohan wasn't even fighting back.

Trunks and Vegeta didn't use any ki attacks against each other (I don't think Goten and Gohan did either, but I don't feel like checking). By definition, that means they weren't using the full extent of their abilities since they weren't using their most powerful techniques.

[DBZAOTA482]

Trunks and Vegeta didn't use any ki attacks against each other (I don't think Goten and Gohan did either, but I don't feel like checking). By definition, that means they weren't using the full extent of their abilities since they weren't using their most powerful techniques.

Are you getting smart with him?

I never said pretend! Not once did I say that. I'm simply saying that Gohan isn't using his full effort. Serious, yes, but not full effort. It's SPARRING! You admit that, ergo, not them to their max.

I don't see how it being a sparring season automatically mean he's not going to use the full extent of his abilities. In many ways, doing so is detrimental to the learning process among other things.

If they were using the full extent of their abilities, then the planet would be dust. If nothing else, Vegeta's gravity chamber wouldn't have survived his sparring with Trunks.

Suggesting that they're stupid enough to aim a ki blast towards the Earth's core.

Going full out can result in injuries. Going full out is by definition not sparring.

That hasn't stopped them in the past, and I don't think it would be very wise for Gohan to hold back when he's gotten rusty (Goten seems like he isn't). Only the inexperienced fear the likability of injuries.

[Kamiccolo9]

Trunks and Vegeta didn't use any ki attacks against each other (I don't think Goten and Gohan did either, but I don't feel like checking). By definition, that means they weren't using the full extent of their abilities since they weren't using their most powerful techniques.

Are you getting smart with him?

Nope. Just stating the obvious. They aren't using their most powerful techniques, so it's pretty apparent that they aren't going all out. I didn't see any Kamehamehas, Final Flashes, Big Bangs, Masenkos, or whatever it is that Goten and Trunks use, did you?

[ABED]

That hasn't stopped them in the past,

When?

and I don't think it would be very wise for Gohan to hold back when he's gotten rusty (Goten seems like he isn't).

He's more or less shaken off enough ring rust when he's sparring with Goten, and it doesn't even seem like they are sparring as much as Gohan's just blocking.

Only the inexperienced fear the likability of injuries.

Huh?

[TheGmGoken]

To get back on topic.

What's y'all opinions on Broly's voice. Any dub.

[ABED]

To get back on topic.

What's y'all opinions on Broly's voice. Any dub.

Can't remember his JPN voice, and Mignona is an interesting choice for the dub.

[dbboxkaifan]

To get back on topic.

What's y'all opinions on Broly's voice. Any dub.

Just from his behaviour he's unpleasant to have around and with a voice it just made it more obvious (I can't even remember his Japanese vocal), I wonder why Toei came up with such a crappy character for the Dragon Ball universe maybe it was just to annoy everyone.

[ABED]

I don't get the hate. He's a tad one note in 10 and 11, but he's not that bad in 8. The fights aren't that much different than the other villains in the other films.

[TheGmGoken]

I don't get the hate. He's a tad one note in 10 and 11, but he's not that bad in 8. The fights aren't that much different than the other villains in the other films.

Besides Dead Zone and World's Strongest was there any DBZ movie with equal fights? Or at least not a curbstomp until the end?

[RandomGuy96]

Movie 12 had fights that were at least not total rape-stomps. The weaker fighter could still keep up and get in some hits. Mainly SS3 Goku and SS2 Vegeta vs Janemba.