Hell of a crush/beating by Ozaru Vegeta!DBZGTKOSDH wrote:When did that happen in the manga?MDSTSSJ wrote:Goku is recognized for enduring serious beatings by beings much stronger than him.
Why the Broly hate?
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Piccolo as well if you want to include DragonBall.MDSTSSJ wrote:Hell of a crush/beating by Ozaru Vegeta!DBZGTKOSDH wrote:When did that happen in the manga?MDSTSSJ wrote:Goku is recognized for enduring serious beatings by beings much stronger than him.
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He literally broke! He didn't die because Vegeta wanted to torture him.MDSTSSJ wrote:Hell of a crush/beating by Ozaru Vegeta!DBZGTKOSDH wrote:When did that happen in the manga?MDSTSSJ wrote:Goku is recognized for enduring serious beatings by beings much stronger than him.
Piccolo (both Daimao & Ma Jr.) was around as strong as Goku, not over 3 times stronger.Wibbs wrote:Piccolo as well if you want to include DragonBall.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I guess, haven't really seen or read too much of DragonBall. I'm just going off of little bits I've seen here and there. If we're talking about people 3 times stronger than Goku, would you say Raditz fits the bill?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Piccolo (both Daimao & Ma Jr.) was around as strong as Goku, not over 3 times stronger.Wibbs wrote:Piccolo as well if you want to include DragonBall.
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So now that I've seen all three Broli films I have to say he's not a good character at all, most of the time he screams KAKAROTTO and rarely does he say something other than that. Bio-Broli was the best of the bunch and I'd watch it again unlike The Legendary Super Saiyan Broli & Broly Second Coming.
Rest in peace Broli as it wasn't his fault how he turned out but Toei's.
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I don't hate the character, but I certainly dislike when people make him a Mary Sue.Flame Dragon wrote:I see this forum really dislikes Broly for some reason... How come?
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plot twist: Broly's mother was also Gine's sister!
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Now it all makes sense why he loves saying Kakarroto so much.crisis wrote:plot twist: Broly's mother was also Gine's sister!
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He just never has a good reason to do what he does. His hatred for Goku is unexplained, vague and senseless.
Though his fanbase is what makes him easily loathable. He has no likable traits and no personslity at all but the fanbase too often uses him as the poster-child for the ultimate villain in every fan-fic.
Though his fanbase is what makes him easily loathable. He has no likable traits and no personslity at all but the fanbase too often uses him as the poster-child for the ultimate villain in every fan-fic.
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He's basically Kid Buu before Kid Buu.
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But way weaker (unlike what his fanbase would say) and less funny.mAcChaos wrote:He's basically Kid Buu before Kid Buu.
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I gotta admit the part where Goku freaks out over Broly licking his own blood always makes me laugh.
That and Vegeta is just in the first movie.
straight petrified (huh?)
That and Vegeta is just in the first movie.
straight petrified (huh?)
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I probably am the lone stranger, and it's an unpopular opinion...FrogTrigger wrote:I gotta admit the part where Goku freaks out over Broly licking his own blood always makes me laugh.
That and Vegeta is just in the first movie.
straight petrified (huh?)
But Vegeta in the first Broly film is my absolute favorite thing about the film.
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Half the games portray Broly as like the most powerful Z character in the series. (has him fighting SSJ Gogeta in the beginning intros, and Budokai 3 places this character right after defeating Super Buuhan, Goku saying he "senses a power stronger than Buu"...)
And there is a ridiculous Broly fanbase on youtube, most of them claim that he can beat any Z character yet cannot back up their claims, and some haven't even seen the whole show to begin with..
Just a few of the reasons why we hate Broly
I will admit, when I first saw his movie The Legendary Super Saiyan, it was awesome. But then Second Coming and Bio-Broly happened and that ruined it.
And there is a ridiculous Broly fanbase on youtube, most of them claim that he can beat any Z character yet cannot back up their claims, and some haven't even seen the whole show to begin with..
Just a few of the reasons why we hate Broly
I will admit, when I first saw his movie The Legendary Super Saiyan, it was awesome. But then Second Coming and Bio-Broly happened and that ruined it.
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I don't remember if I posted in this thread yet, but I'll just say I think Broli is decent. As a character he's kind of one dimensional, but on the other hand he's supposed to be insane. Character wise, he's kinda like a more aware kid Buu. Honestly, I think the best part is his design, which I'm quite a fan of (more so his normal and blue-haired forms).
Only in movies 10 and 11. In 8 he has actual dialog.dbboxkaifan wrote:most of the time he screams KAKAROTTO and rarely does he say something other than that.
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Like 2 or 3 lines. And then more "KAKAROTT!!!!" and needless yelling/charging.Metalwario64 wrote:I don't remember if I posted in this thread yet, but I'll just say I think Broli is decent. As a character he's kind of one dimensional, but on the other hand he's supposed to be insane. Character wise, he's kinda like a more aware kid Buu. Honestly, I think the best part is his design, which I'm quite a fan of (more so his normal and blue-haired forms).
Only in movies 10 and 11. In 8 he has actual dialog.dbboxkaifan wrote:most of the time he screams KAKAROTTO and rarely does he say something other than that.
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To me, Movie 8 Broly never cared that much for Goku after he went LSSJ. I mean, besides his first sentence ("I'll start the carnage with you"), he just beat him down and that's it. He beat down the others, killed Paragus and only sounded a bit suprised when he saw Goku walking up to him. In Movie 10 however, it begins with him saying KAKARROTTO 3 times, he wakes up, screams "CACHALOTE!!" and doesn't say anything different for the rest of the movie.Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:Like 2 or 3 lines. And then more "KAKAROTT!!!!" and needless yelling/charging.Metalwario64 wrote:I don't remember if I posted in this thread yet, but I'll just say I think Broli is decent. As a character he's kind of one dimensional, but on the other hand he's supposed to be insane. Character wise, he's kinda like a more aware kid Buu. Honestly, I think the best part is his design, which I'm quite a fan of (more so his normal and blue-haired forms).
Only in movies 10 and 11. In 8 he has actual dialog.dbboxkaifan wrote:most of the time he screams KAKAROTTO and rarely does he say something other than that.
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he was SO terrified, like it was crazy to seeorbweaver wrote:I probably am the lone stranger, and it's an unpopular opinion...FrogTrigger wrote:I gotta admit the part where Goku freaks out over Broly licking his own blood always makes me laugh.
That and Vegeta is just in the first movie.
straight petrified (huh?)
But Vegeta in the first Broly film is my absolute favorite thing about the film.
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Somehow Broli was Top #3 on Dragon Ball Z Villains by WatchMojo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uECtg1-nnTA
With so many great villains they gave the third position to the moronic Broli.
With so many great villains they gave the third position to the moronic Broli.
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At least 1st place was given to a good villain.dbboxkaifan wrote:Somehow Broli was Top #3 on Dragon Ball Z Villains by WatchMojo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uECtg1-nnTA
With so many great villains they gave the third position to the moronic Broli.
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