The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

[SaiyaJedi]

Yeah, that's accurate. He's the oldest of 5 siblings (5人兄弟の長男); so he has 4 younger siblings.

Well, he's the oldest boy of five siblings; presumably, he could have an older sister, but the fact that it goes on to mention that he looks after his young brothers and sisters seems to imply he's the eldest in general.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I would assume he's the oldest outright, yeah, cuz otherwise why wouldn't the daughter be looking out for them?

...Hmm. Is it said anywhere that Oob's parents are even alive? I can assume they are based on how outraged he was towards Goku's taunts about them (you'd think if they were dead, he'd be angrier still), but I don't think I've ever seen anything stating one way or the other. I'm guessing there's probably nothing though, right?

[i'mfuckingevil]

[SaiyaJedi]

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"Dragon Ball Z
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The End"

[JeffJarrett]

The symbol on Frieza's family cards for Dragon Ball Heroes has somthing writen under it (http://www.carddass.com/dbh/news/177.html):



What does this mean?

[Herms]

"The strongest clan in the universe".

[Kaboom]

I have another little translation-related question, about this quote from the tail end of Goku's fight with Nappa...

Chapter: 226 (DBZ 32), P7.4/P8.1-4
Context: after Goku deflects Nappa's mouth blast
Vegeta: “Unbelievable!! To instantly deflect it at that short of a distance!”
Goku: “Phew. If I had taken that one head on, I’d have been in trouble!!”
Nappa: It…It can’t be!!! That was my…my best technique!!! He…He just bounced it off!!”
Goku: “He really is a tough bastard! Even though he should have been hurt a little bit by my Kamehameha!! At this rate this looks like it will take forever...”

... Specifically the phrase from Goku I bolded. I'd like to know what the actual Japanese word for "tough" used here was, and what its connotations are. Is Goku saying that Nappa is tough in a metaphorical "difficult to deal with" sense, or a more literal "resistant to damage" way? The context of the quote (and not to mention his feats against both Goku and the other heroes before that) would favor the latter, but I'd like to be sure.

Obviously it's kind of a point of argument in some strength debates, about just how Nappa managed to last so long against someone twice as strong as him. Him just being extraordinarily durable for someone of his power level would be a quick and easy explanation.

[RandomGuy96]

I think we already know that he is, considering that he was getting up after a beating from someone at 8,000 while at the same time being unable to see the movements of someone at 5,000.

I have a question: in the Viz manga, Buuhan says two lines while absorbing Vegetto that interest me. One is "I have to absorb him... but how?" and the other is something like "Good, he doesn't notice" while Buu's head tentacle is sneaking up on Vegetto. Is the exact wording significantly different in the original? Because this would at least confirm that Buu can't simply absorb whoever he wants whenever he wants (like, say, turning his whole body into goo when someone tries to punch him), and needs a moment of weakness. Unless he planted a piece of himself beforehand, that would translate to him somehow getting his enemy to stand still and unaware for an extended period of time, making it impractical without proper planning.

[RandomGuy96]

Here's another request separate from my previous one: what is the properly translated title of chapter 475? I've seen it listed differently in many places:

Wikipedia: Majin Boo Begins to See His True Worth

Viz: Boo Unbound

DB Wiki: Majin Buu's True Value Begins to Appear

Fanslations: Majin Buu's True Power

All of these titles of course carry different implications. Wikipedia's seems like the title is referring to Buu realizing he can just get rid of Babidi, while the fanslation and DB wiki versions suggest Buu is just starting to show his full power, and may even have more in store for later (fanslation suggests it's all he has, DB wiki suggests he'll power up more). The Viz version can be referring to both. "Unbound" (i.e. unrestricted) can mean Buu is either not holding back anymore, and using full strength (or is about to), or that Babidi can't control him now, and he's free to do whatever he wants. So which is it?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Seriously, there is a site too.

DRAGON BALL CHAPTER 475
見え始めた魔人ブウの真価
Mie Hajimeta Majin Bū no Shinka
Majin Buu Begins to See His True Worth

[RandomGuy96]

Ooooooh... my bad! Thanks for clearing that up.

[Herms]

真価/shinka literally means "real value/worth" (真/shin="true", 価/ka="value", simply enough), though it could be used metaphorically to refer to what somebody's really capable of. So in that indirect way, it could theoretically refer to "true power". Based on what actually goes on in chapter 475 though, I'd say it's almost certainly referring to Boo's worth as a person, rather than anything about how much power he has.

Viz's title for the chapter is a reference to the play Prometheus Unbound. Funi's title for DBZ movie 9 is also a joke on this.

I'd like to know what the actual Japanese word for "tough" used here was, and what its connotations are. Is Goku saying that Nappa is tough in a metaphorical "difficult to deal with" sense, or a more literal "resistant to damage" way?

Amusingly enough, they actually use the English word "tough" there (タフ/tafu). It has pretty much the same meaning as in English ("Sturdiness. Having strong physical endurance and indomitable force of will" according to the Sanseido dictionary), so I guess Goku could be talking either about Nappa's mental or physical toughness. But based on context, I'd say he's mostly talking about physical toughness, since he follows it up by saying the Kamehameha ought to have hurt him.

I have a question: in the Viz manga, Buuhan says two lines while absorbing Vegetto that interest me. One is "I have to absorb him... but how?" and the other is something like "Good, he doesn't notice" while Buu's head tentacle is sneaking up on Vegetto. Is the exact wording significantly different in the original?

Not really. The second one is slightly more "he's off-guard/not paying attention", if that makes any difference.

[El Diabeetus]

真価/shinka literally means "real value/worth" (真/shin="true", 価/ka="value", simply enough), though it could be used metaphorically to refer to what somebody's really capable of. So in that indirect way, it could theoretically refer to "true power". Based on what actually goes on in chapter 475 though, I'd say it's almost certainly referring to Boo's worth as a person, rather than anything about how much power he has.

I'm used hearing shinka in context to evolution due to playing Pokémon in Japanese. Although the Kanji is different quickly looking it up.

[Kaboom]

Sweet, thanks. Weird that I didn't even consider the possibility that he just used the English word.

[RandomGuy96]

Nice. Thanks for the clarification. This at least answers the question of why Buu didn't just spam absorption every time.

Shouldn't those be on the Strength Checker? At the very least they confirm that Buu needs to catch someone stronger than him off guard to absorb them, which is what he does with Gotenks, Gohan, and Vegetto. Or are they already there...?

[gojirason]

This please:

Spoiler:

In particular I'm interested in what is being said by Goku's weight training section. The most I can really "2 tons", "training!" and what is really catching my interest which is what looks like "100倍の重力" which I know for certain is "100 times gravity" but I don't know why it's saying that or even if it is for sure.

I'm no translator but I am assuming the 100 refers to 100x gravity on the ship to Namek as Herm's already said when talking about the Super Exciting Guide:

It’s worth pointing out that it basically says the reason Goku’s weight training in Heaven was so effective was that he used Bukujutsu to float in midair as he used the weights, which made it much harder. Goku’s never shown using Bukujutsu during any of his gravity training on Kaio’s or in the spaceship (at least not in the manga, that I can remember). It also says his image training/meditation was a means to raise his maximum ki, as muscle training has a limit. Toriyama mentioned there being limits to how much training your muscles could do and needing ki to overcome that limit in the book's interview.

Ki transcends physical limits, if there is a physical limitation Ki allows Goku to bust through that (ie how Goku was able to fly at all and in fact destroy his Saiyan Physical Limits on his way to Namek and surpass the limits of his own Ki with regard to to SS1 and become SS2 then SS3). Hope that helps.

Eeh, not really. I'm pretty sure that's just Herms is making a note that Goku was never actually flying when training on the way to Namek and not actually part of that translation.
Thanks for trying though.

[Herms]

Eeh, not really. I'm pretty sure that's just Herms is making a note that Goku was never actually flying when training on the way to Namek and not actually part of that translation.
Thanks for trying though.

Yeah, that part was just a note. Anyway, here's a translation of the bit on weight training. Sorry for the delay:

Menu 1: Shadow boxing while wearing weights
Training with 2 ton weights on each arm and each leg while using Bukujutsu! It’s a bigger strain on the body than 100-fold gravity, but its effect is accordingly huge!
[caption to Goku getting pulled down by the weights] Holding up weights in midair also requires ki power.

[Kakarot88]

@ Herms Just so I'm clear "your note" is not the same as "the note" that is on that page?

Eh, not really. I'm pretty sure that's just Herms is making a note that Goku was never actually flying when training on the way to Namek and not actually part of that translation. Thanks for trying though.

Ki transcends physical limits, period, not sure what you disagree with. The "thanks for trying though" comes off as condescending, but that might not have been your intent.

[Herms]

@ Herms Just so I'm clear "your note" is not the same as "the note" that is on that page?

My note was: "Goku’s never shown using Bukujutsu during any of his gravity training on Kaio’s or in the spaceship (at least not in the manga, that I can remember)"

[kuartus4]

Can someone please translate these dialogue boxes? Would really appreciate it. Thanks.