The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

[Alioth]

The song is about newborn, and love

Ha! That would be a bit too good to be true! I kind of gather that it's a love song though...

[gojirason]

Eeh, not really. I'm pretty sure that's just Herms is making a note that Goku was never actually flying when training on the way to Namek and not actually part of that translation.
Thanks for trying though.

Yeah, that part was just a note. Anyway, here's a translation of the bit on weight training. Sorry for the delay:

Menu 1: Shadow boxing while wearing weights
Training with 2 ton weights on each arm and each leg while using Bukujutsu! It’s a bigger strain on the body than 100-fold gravity, but its effect is accordingly huge!
[caption to Goku getting pulled down by the weights] Holding up weights in midair also requires ki power.

Awesome, thank you!
Not sure what I was expecting, but it's good to have confirmation nonetheless.

@ Herms Just so I'm clear "your note" is not the same as "the note" that is on that page?

Eh, not really. I'm pretty sure that's just Herms is making a note that Goku was never actually flying when training on the way to Namek and not actually part of that translation. Thanks for trying though.

Ki transcends physical limits, period, not sure what you disagree with. The "thanks for trying though" comes off as condescending, but that might not have been your intent.

I didn't disagree with anything, it just wasn't that helpful because I was just looking for what the caption said. No offense intended at all, I was genuinely thanking your attempt to help.

Can someone please translate these dialogue boxes? Would really appreciate it. Thanks.

Kuririrn's is:
"Ce...Cell's ki is still huge..."

Can't read the other two very well, but I know Goku's is just along the lines of him being confused because he can't "the fused kid's ki" on Earth. (He doesn't know they're in the RoSaT yet)
If you're looking for something more specific I can't help you there.

[Herms]

Can someone please translate these dialogue boxes? Would really appreciate it. Thanks.

Piccolo: "Many hours are passing on the other side…This is bad! Everyone is…"

Presumably Piccolo was going to say "everyone is getting killed" or something along those lines before trailing off. Anyway, as Piccolo himself later admits, he's actually completely confused here about the way the Room of Spirit and Time works. Time goes faster inside, so while he and Gotenks are stuck in there, only a tiny amount of time actually passes on the outside. Which is still enough time for Boo to kill everyone, but I guess he's just that fast.

Kuririn: "Cell’s ki is still huge…"

Said after Trunks surrenders and his ki shrinks down.

Goku: "[r]…I don’t know…I can’t sense the squirts’ Fusion’s ki either…And it doesn’t seem like [they’ve] fought…[l] Why did [Boo’s?] ki suddenly vanish?..."

This panel probably has the record for being requested the most times throughout this thread. The tricky part is whether in that second speech balloon when Goku talks about a ki suddenly vanishing, does he mean "the squirts' Fusions' ki" or Boo's ki. There's no actual possessive there in Japanese, so you have to go off of context. If you look at just the one panel on its own, then it's very natural to assume Goku means the Fusion's ki, but the actual page starts out with Goku noting how Boo's ki has vanished.
The conversation goes like this:

Goku: "Hey Kaioshin, have you noticed? Majin Boo’s ki vanished a while ago."
Kaioshin: "Huh? Oh, now that you mention it!"
Kibito: "What’s going on? Is he dead?"
Goku: "…I don’t know…I can’t sense the squirts’ Fusion’s ki either…And it doesn’t seem like [they’ve] fought…Why did [Boo’s?] ki suddenly vanish?..."

So taken in that larger context it probably makes more sense to assume Goku's talking about Boo's ki. What's more, the whole reason Goku can't sense anybody's ki is because they've all gone into the Room of Spirit and Time. But Goten and Trunks went in to the room first, then fused into Gotenks inside. So it wouldn't make much sense for Goku to talk about "the squirts' Fusion's ki" suddenly vanishing, since they weren't fused when they went into the room. Still, it's possible Toriyama forgot that detail and really did intend Goku to be talking about the Fusion's ki after all.

[kuartus4]

Piccolo: "Many hours are passing on the other side…This is bad! Everyone is…"

Presumably Piccolo was going to say "everyone is getting killed" or something along those lines before trailing off. Anyway, as Piccolo himself later admits, he's actually completely confused here about the way the Room of Spirit and Time works. Time goes faster inside, so while he and Gotenks are stuck in there, only a tiny amount of time actually passes on the outside. Which is still enough time for Boo to kill everyone, but I guess he's just that fast.

Kuririn: "Cell’s ki is still huge…"

Said after Trunks surrenders and his ki shrinks down.

Goku: "[r]…I don’t know…I can’t sense the squirts’ Fusion’s ki either…And it doesn’t seem like [they’ve] fought…[l] Why did [Boo’s?] ki suddenly vanish?..."

This panel probably has the record for being requested the most times throughout this thread. The tricky part is whether in that second speech balloon when Goku talks about a ki suddenly vanishing, does he mean "the squirts' Fusions' ki" or Boo's ki. There's no actual possessive there in Japanese, so you have to go off of context. If you look at just the one panel on its own, then it's very natural to assume Goku means the Fusion's ki, but the actual page starts out with Goku noting how Boo's ki has vanished.
The conversation goes like this:

Goku: "Hey Kaioshin, have you noticed? Majin Boo’s ki vanished a while ago."
Kaioshin: "Huh? Oh, now that you mention it!"
Kibito: "What’s going on? Is he dead?"
Goku: "…I don’t know…I can’t sense the squirts’ Fusion’s ki either…And it doesn’t seem like [they’ve] fought…Why did [Boo’s?] ki suddenly vanish?..."

So taken in that larger context it probably makes more sense to assume Goku's talking about Boo's ki. What's more, the whole reason Goku can't sense anybody's ki is because they've all gone into the Room of Spirit and Time. But Goten and Trunks went in to the room first, then fused into Gotenks inside. So it wouldn't make much sense for Goku to talk about "the squirts' Fusion's ki" suddenly vanishing, since they weren't fused when they went into the room. Still, it's possible Toriyama forgot that detail and really did intend Goku to be talking about the Fusion's ki after all.

Thanks Herms. Its weird that Goku says that Buu's ki vanished a while ago, which implies something like 20 minutes at least. Buu could not have been more than 30 minutes inside the Rosat, since when he gets out, Gotenks was still fused. And since Piccolo says that 1 minute outside the Rosat is 6 hours inside the Rosat, Buu could not have been absent from the outside world for any more than 5 seconds.

[Adamant]

So it wouldn't make much sense for Goku to talk about "the squirts' Fusion's ki" suddenly vanishing, since they weren't fused when they went into the room. Still, it's possible Toriyama forgot that detail and really did intend Goku to be talking about the Fusion's ki after all.

Taking the entire page into context, I'd say it's pretty clear he's saying words to the effect of "I'm not sure why Boo's ki disappeared, but I doubt it's because he got killed, since I didn't sense any battle taking place, nor do I sense Gotenks' existence".
Don't really see how it can be taken to mean anything else.

[kuartus4]

So it wouldn't make much sense for Goku to talk about "the squirts' Fusion's ki" suddenly vanishing, since they weren't fused when they went into the room. Still, it's possible Toriyama forgot that detail and really did intend Goku to be talking about the Fusion's ki after all.

Taking the entire page into context, I'd say it's pretty clear he's saying words to the effect of "I'm not sure why Boo's ki disappeared, but I doubt it's because he got killed, since I didn't sense any battle taking place, nor do I sense Gotenks' existence".
Don't really see how it can be taken to mean anything else.

Interesting. I guess this would confirm that SSJ3 Goku>SSJ Gotenk pre Rosat, since Goku never felt his power from the kaioshin realm, like Goku's was.

[Adamant]

So it wouldn't make much sense for Goku to talk about "the squirts' Fusion's ki" suddenly vanishing, since they weren't fused when they went into the room. Still, it's possible Toriyama forgot that detail and really did intend Goku to be talking about the Fusion's ki after all.

Taking the entire page into context, I'd say it's pretty clear he's saying words to the effect of "I'm not sure why Boo's ki disappeared, but I doubt it's because he got killed, since I didn't sense any battle taking place, nor do I sense Gotenks' existence".
Don't really see how it can be taken to mean anything else.

Interesting. I guess this would confirm that SSJ3 Goku>SSJ Gotenk pre Rosat, since Goku never felt his power from the kaioshin realm, like Goku's was.

What are you talking about? He's not sensing any of them at that point because they're in an alternate dimension.

[kuartus4]

What are you talking about? He's not sensing any of them at that point because they're in an alternate dimension.

Maybe I misinterpreted you. I though you were suggesting that the reason Goku doubted Buu had been killed was because he hadn't felt Gotenks ki from the kaioshin realm, meaning he wasn't strong enough to kill Buu.

[Adamant]

What are you talking about? He's not sensing any of them at that point because they're in an alternate dimension.

Maybe I misinterpreted you. I though you were suggesting that the reason Goku doubted Buu had been killed was because he hadn't felt Gotenks ki from the kaioshin realm, meaning he wasn't strong enough to kill Buu.

Goku doubted the disappearance of Boo's ki was a result of Boo's death because he had neither sensed any kind of battle taking place, nor had he sensed Gotenks, the only one who could've potentially caused Boo's death, coming into existence.

I have no idea how you're reading any potential comparison of Goku and Gotenks' power into this.

[kuartus4]

What are you talking about? He's not sensing any of them at that point because they're in an alternate dimension.

Maybe I misinterpreted you. I though you were suggesting that the reason Goku doubted Buu had been killed was because he hadn't felt Gotenks ki from the kaioshin realm, meaning he wasn't strong enough to kill Buu.

Goku doubted the disappearance of Boo's ki was a result of Boo's death because he had neither sensed any kind of battle taking place, nor had he sensed Gotenks, the only one who could've potentially caused Boo's death, coming into existence.

I have no idea how you're reading any potential comparison of Goku and Gotenks' power into this.

So you are saying what I thought you were saying. The reason this matters in comparing Goku's and Gotenks' powers is because Goku's SSj3 power was implied to be the first power strong enough to be felt all the way to the kaioshin realm. Meaning that only a power which is SSJ3 Goku tier or above could be sensed from so far away. If Gotenks' power was never felt all the way to the kaioshin realm, then he is not SSJ3 Goku tier. So SSJ3 Goku>SSJ Gotenks pre Rosat.

[Adamant]

So you are saying what I thought you were saying. The reason this matters in comparing Goku's and Gotenks' powers is because Goku's SSj3 power was implied to be the first power strong enough to be felt all the way to the kaioshin realm. Meaning that only a power which is SSJ3 Goku tier or above could be sensed from so far away. If Gotenks' power was never felt all the way to the kaioshin realm, then he is not SSJ3 Goku tier. So SSJ3 Goku>SSJ Gotenks pre Rosat.

No.


*Boo's ki is gone
*Could this be because Boo is dead?
*Let's see
*I didn't sense any battle taking place
*I didn't feel Gotenks coming into existence, and Gotenks is the only one who's even remotely near Boo's level of strength, so if anyone killed Boo, it would've been Gotenks
*Hence, the disappearance of Boo's ki is probably not because someone (read: Gotenks) killed Boo

Do you need Goku's line of thought spelled out even clearer?

[rereboy]

No.


*Boo's ki is gone
*Could this be because Boo is dead?
*Let's see
*I didn't sense any battle taking place
*I didn't feel Gotenks coming into existence, and Gotenks is the only one who's even remotely near Boo's level of strength, so if anyone killed Boo, it would've been Gotenks
*Hence, the disappearance of Boo's ki is probably not because someone (read: Gotenks) killed Boo

Do you need Goku's line of thought spelled out even clearer?

SSJ Gotenks (pre-ROSAT) was born into existence, and he even tried to challenge Fat Buu before his fusion ran out. But despite this, Goku didn't feel him come into existence, even though SSJ3 Goku had been felt from the Kaioshin realm.

What kuartus4 is saying is that this implies that, at that moment, SSJ Gotenks wasn't as powerful as SSJ3 Goku. And he is right. After ROSAT he might have been though. And SSJ3 Gotenks is definitely stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

[Adamant]

What.
He's not saying he never ever in his life felt Gotenks coming into existence, he's saying he didn't feel it happen NOW.
Hell, Gotenks and Boo ARE fighting at the time, they're just doing so in an alternate dimension, and Goku can't sense anyone through those dimension walls.

[rereboy]

What.
He's not saying he never ever in his life felt Gotenks coming into existence, he's saying he didn't feel it happen NOW.
Hell, Gotenks and Boo ARE fighting at the time, they're just doing so in an alternate dimension, and Goku can't sense anyone through those dimension walls.

"I don’t know…I can’t sense the squirts’ Fusion’s ki either…And it doesn’t seem like [they’ve] fought…Why did [Boo’s?] ki suddenly vanish?..."

That can be interpreted as him saying that he hasn't felt Gotenks power yet or that he hasn't felt Gotenks power in the last few moments but he has felt it before. Either interpretation is possible. You chose to favor the second interpretation, which is fine, but you really should understand that that's not the only way to interpret it.

[Kamiccolo9]

Spoiler:

Could someone possibly tell me what Goku says in the original manga here? Specifically the bottom left panel, where he says that he hates Vegeta. I'm wondering if the same wording is used in the original.

Also, is there any line that any of you know of where Goku says that the Saiyans deserved what Freeza did to them?

[kuartus4]

Spoiler:

Could someone possibly tell me what Goku says in the original manga here? Specifically the bottom left panel, where he says that he hates Vegeta. I'm wondering if the same wording is used in the original.

Also, is there any line that any of you know of where Goku says that the Saiyans deserved what Freeza did to them?

If you don't mind me asking, where is that scan from?

[rereboy]

Probably fan-translated.

[Herms]

It's based off the kanzenban release (with the Goku/Freeza fight starting in volume 21) so yeah, definitely some fan thing.

Anyway, Goku does say that he hated Freeza in Japanese (in fact, he says dai-kirai, so he really hated him).

[Kamiccolo9]

It's based off the kanzenban release (with the Goku/Freeza fight starting in volume 21) so yeah, definitely some fan thing.

Anyway, Goku does say that he hated Freeza in Japanese (in fact, he says dai-kirai, so he really hated him).

Do you mean Vegeta? Or did this fan thing get it wrong, and refer to Freeza as Vegeta by mistake?

[Zestanor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQkbMf_sF4A

What's Lucifer saying at the beginning of this video? The subtitles have it as "Bingo, Bingo, Bingo," I I don't think he said the same word three times? Also, it sounds like the choir, at 0:24, is repeating what he said.