Training with ki energy

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Training with ki energy

Post by SaiyajinPrince » Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:38 am

We know as humans that we have a limit to our strength due to the lack of ki but because saiyans have ki energy running through them at all times does that give them the power to never have limits? Can they keep building strength?
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Re: Training with ki energy

Post by Blade » Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:24 pm

SaiyajinPrince wrote:We know as humans that we have a limit to our strength due to the lack of ki but because saiyans have ki energy running through them at all times does that give them the power to never have limits? Can they keep building strength?
I don't think Saiyans are born with an innate mastership of Ki, but instead a natural aptitude to develop one.

And to answer your question, Birus and Whiis speculate at the end of Battle of Gods about if Goku and Vegeta could one day become as strong as them - which as incredibly powerful Gods, is quite a statement.
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Re: Training with ki energy

Post by Hugo Boss » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:58 pm

I don't think there is an established limit to ki's power. The moving plot requires stronger people and training is a way to accomplish that, though they always have to discover a new point to improve.
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Re: Training with ki energy

Post by Haji » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:45 pm

Just imagine if Gokuu and Vegeta reached that level of power, then turn SSJ or fuse. Then they would truly be the strongest anime characters.
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Re: Training with ki energy

Post by Saiyan007 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:24 pm

Haji wrote:Just imagine if Gokuu and Vegeta reached that level of power, then turn SSJ or fuse. Then they would truly be the strongest anime characters.
doubt it Akira would find a way so it looks like they are only Planet lvl
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Re: Training with ki energy

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:47 pm

Blade wrote:
SaiyajinPrince wrote:We know as humans that we have a limit to our strength due to the lack of ki but because saiyans have ki energy running through them at all times does that give them the power to never have limits? Can they keep building strength?
I don't think Saiyans are born with an innate mastership of Ki, but instead a natural aptitude to develop one.

And to answer your question, Birus and Whiis speculate at the end of Battle of Gods about if Goku and Vegeta could one day become as strong as them - which as incredibly powerful Gods, is quite a statement.
Although that was probably taking into account them both using the SSJG transformation.
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Re: Training with ki energy

Post by Haji » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:35 pm

I figured they meant Gokuu AND Vegeta using SSJG. But just think if they did get that strong in base form. I don't think there would be anymore debates about Gokku vs whoever.
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Re: Training with ki energy

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:43 am

Haji wrote:I figured they meant Gokuu AND Vegeta using SSJG. But just think if they did get that strong in base form. I don't think there would be anymore debates about Gokku vs whoever.
If you mean from series outside of DB, there is always going to be someone stronger. Especially ridiculously powerful characters with abilities that DBZ fighters simply have no way to counter.
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Re: Training with ki energy

Post by Haji » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:07 am

Yeah like Saint Seiya or Bastard! or nearly every other western comic book character -_-
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Re: Training with ki energy

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:14 am

Goku could try staying as SSJ3 for weeks straight like he did with SSJ1 in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber!!!

Or ask Dr. Briefs to upgrade the graviton chamber to go up to 100,000g... ;)
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Re: Training with ki energy

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:22 pm

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:Goku could try staying as SSJ3 for weeks straight like he did with SSJ1 in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber!!!

Or ask Dr. Briefs to upgrade the graviton chamber to go up to 100,000g... ;)
I don't think it would be possible to maintain SSJ3 for so long, it takes a much higher toll on the body than other SSJ forms. Besides, if you count BoG he already has the power of SSJG so he doesn't need it.
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Re: Training with ki energy

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:45 pm

Apparently, even the Saiyans have their limits, not just the Earthlings or the Namekians.
  • An aged Kame-sennin couldn't keep up with Goku & co. after the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai.
  • Chaozu couldn't keep up with the other Earthlings after Freeza arc.
  • Tenshinhan & Yamcha couldn't keep up with Kuririn after he got his dormant power drawn out in Freeza arc (Tenshinhan never stopped training, unlike Kuririn, yet Kuririn was still on the top).
  • Kuririn couldn't keep up with the base Saiyans after Freeza arc.
  • Piccolo couldn't keep up with the Super Saiyans after they mastered the form.
  • Goku & Vegeta had reached a point were they couldn't make significant jumps in power, unless they had discovered a new transformation, by the time of the Boo arc.
  • Gohan had his dormant power drawn out far, far, faaa~aaar beyond its limits in Boo arc.
The only ones that didn't show us their true potential are Yajirobe (presumably hard-worker-turned-lazy), Goten & Trunks (hard-workers-turned-lazy[-turned-hard-workers in DBO]), Pan, and Oob (both of them were too young, but going by GT or DBO, they were hard-workers).
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