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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:02 am

ABED wrote:Chichi's not nerdy. Unlike Chichi, Gohan's anger isn't irrational, and I don't see how it's in any way psychotic.
She kinda was nerdy when she was younger (see her interactions with Yamcha and Goku), and when he went SSJ2, he wanted Cell to suffer before killing him despite seeing how villains tend to get when they're being showed up (see the battles against Nappa, Vegeta, Freeza). That's not even getting to his battle against Super Boo.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:10 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
ABED wrote:Chichi's not nerdy. Unlike Chichi, Gohan's anger isn't irrational, and I don't see how it's in any way psychotic.
She kinda was when she was younger (see her interactions with Yamcha and Goku), and when he went SSJ2, he wanted Cell to suffer before killing him despite seeing how villains tend to get when they're being showed up (see the battles against Nappa, Vegeta, Freeza). That's not even getting to his battle against Super Boo.
I think at least some of her anger is irrational. Like I said, the only thing they have alike is their tempers and appearance.

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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by Attitudefan » Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:16 am

Not that I found this the most disturbing, but in DB movie 3, when Tao throws Bora into the spiked statue with all the spectators looking on including his SON(!!) is a pretty violent death.

Bora's whole midsection was pierced, through his rib cage, his intestines, and his heart; he was instantly killed. That is just brutal beyond belief (and it all happened so fast too!).
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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by ABED » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:31 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
ABED wrote:Chichi's not nerdy. Unlike Chichi, Gohan's anger isn't irrational, and I don't see how it's in any way psychotic.
She kinda was nerdy when she was younger (see her interactions with Yamcha and Goku), and when he went SSJ2, he wanted Cell to suffer before killing him despite seeing how villains tend to get when they're being showed up (see the battles against Nappa, Vegeta, Freeza). That's not even getting to his battle against Super Boo.
I wouldn't categorize that as nerdy as much as girly. Gohan's anger wasn't irrational, he had every reason to make Cell suffer. Chichi gets pissed at Goku even though his body is broken, and hasn't seen him for a year.
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Re: Most disturbing death

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ABED wrote:Chichi's not nerdy. Unlike Chichi, Gohan's anger isn't irrational, and I don't see how it's in any way psychotic.
She kinda was nerdy when she was younger (see her interactions with Yamcha and Goku), and when he went SSJ2, he wanted Cell to suffer before killing him despite seeing how villains tend to get when they're being showed up (see the battles against Nappa, Vegeta, Freeza). That's not even getting to his battle against Super Boo.
I wouldn't categorize that as nerdy as much as girly. Gohan's anger wasn't irrational, he had every reason to make Cell suffer. Chichi gets pissed at Goku even though his body is broken, and hasn't seen him for a year.
Yeah but his actions towards Super Boo certainly weren't rational.

Have nothing to say on the latter (not up for that right now you'd probably twist it around anyways) but what are the female characters if they're not headstrong idiots (except #18, which is why she's the best)?
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:06 am

Attitudefan wrote:Not that I found this the most disturbing, but in DB movie 3, when Tao throws Bora into the spiked statue with all the spectators looking on including his SON(!!) is a pretty violent death.

Bora's whole midsection was pierced, through his rib cage, his intestines, and his heart; he was instantly killed. That is just brutal beyond belief (and it all happened so fast too!).
Yours too?? I agree. I cringed when Bora died. It was very gruesome.

Although Babidi deserved it, it was uncomfortable to see Fat Buu kill him the way he did by punching his head.

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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:31 pm

Did Gohan really toy with Super Buu? I just recall him mercilessly pummeling Buu a whole bunch (probably the best thing he could do in this situation) until Buu blew himself up. I guess you can say he should't have stood still and let Buu go on his a rant about his evil plans, but even if he didn't do that, nothing would change. Buu would still blow himself up and reform later.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:41 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Did Gohan really toy with Super Buu? I just recall him mercilessly pummeling Buu a whole bunch (probably the best thing he could do in this situation) until Buu blew himself up. I guess you can say he should't have stood still and let Buu go on his a rant about his evil plans, but eve if he didn't do that, nothing would change. Buu would still blow himself up and reform later.
To be fair. Even if he WAS(Which he wasn't) toying with Boo. Boo could just regenerate. I doubt Gohan could use a Masako or Kamehameha strong enough to destroy every atom of Boo. I'm mean Pure Boo :lol: . I already know Gohan could NOT KILL Super Boo.

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Re: Most disturbing death

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TheGmGoken wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Did Gohan really toy with Super Buu? I just recall him mercilessly pummeling Buu a whole bunch (probably the best thing he could do in this situation) until Buu blew himself up. I guess you can say he should't have stood still and let Buu go on his a rant about his evil plans, but eve if he didn't do that, nothing would change. Buu would still blow himself up and reform later.
To be fair. Even if he WAS(Which he wasn't) toying with Boo. Boo could just regenerate. I doubt Gohan could use a Masako or Kamehameha strong enough to destroy every atom of Boo. I'm mean Pure Boo :lol: . I already know Gohan could NOT KILL Super Boo.
Yeah, he could. Killing Buu takes beating on him with physical attacks for a long period of time until he weakens (Gotenks, Vegetto, and Pure Buu were all about to do this), and/or hitting him with a large and overwhelming energy attack that takes every single bit of him with it (the Genki-Dama did this). Gohan was doing the right thing by punching him, as we've repeatedly seen just blasting or piercing him does nothing to Buu.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by ABED » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:49 pm

Have nothing to say on the latter (not up for that right now you'd probably twist it around anyways)
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Re: Most disturbing death

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RandomGuy96 wrote:
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RandomGuy96 wrote:Did Gohan really toy with Super Buu? I just recall him mercilessly pummeling Buu a whole bunch (probably the best thing he could do in this situation) until Buu blew himself up. I guess you can say he should't have stood still and let Buu go on his a rant about his evil plans, but eve if he didn't do that, nothing would change. Buu would still blow himself up and reform later.
To be fair. Even if he WAS(Which he wasn't) toying with Boo. Boo could just regenerate. I doubt Gohan could use a Masako or Kamehameha strong enough to destroy every atom of Boo. I'm mean Pure Boo :lol: . I already know Gohan could NOT KILL Super Boo.
Yeah, he could. Killing Buu takes beating on him with physical attacks for a long period of time until he weakens (Gotenks, Vegetto, and Pure Buu were all about to do this), and/or hitting him with a large and overwhelming energy attack that takes every single bit of him with it (the Genki-Dama did this). Gohan was doing the right thing by punching him, as we've repeatedly seen just blasting or piercing him does nothing to Buu.
Oh crap. Forgot about that. That would had taken a long time then :lol: ....well for Gohan about 3 - 20 minutes. Seeing as about time Pure Boo destroyed Earth the sun was still out

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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:57 pm

The old lady who got killed by the gunman in the Buu arc. Were her and her husband ever resurrected?
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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:59 pm

Kid Buu wrote:The old lady who got killed by the gunman in the Buu arc. Were her and her husband ever resurrected?
I think she did, because the wish specifically said "except the evil ones.

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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by Tokusentai » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:18 am

most of what you guys have said:
the elderly couple (need i even explain? haha.)
Babidi (the fucker got what was coming to him, but that was intense as fuck. just that scene where his scrawny arms were grasping desperately at Buu... :shock: )
the gunman (yeah just like Babidi, but that shit was intense. Plus this intense ass theme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woHtuw_xtcc
human instinction attack... just brutal.
Krillin, creepy and sad as fuck.
What Babidi did to that Tournament guy.. yeah. nuff said.
but one i havent seen anyone mention, is Bee. animal violence, especialyl towards dogs sickens me, and that part where we got shot and basically died disturbs me.

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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:31 am

When they showed Cell absorbing the rich guy and slowly turning into mush. :shock:
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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by Gotham22 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:26 am

That old guy exploding by Buu going down his throat.
Also Buu turning everyone at the lookout into chocolate and eating them.

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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by mAcChaos » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:33 am

Dodoria punching that Namek through the chest was pretty brutal.
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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by Captain Sauza » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:13 am

I was most disturbed with Cargo's death by Freeza in the manga. Innocent little kid got fried by a death beam.
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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by Rockman X » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:49 am

ABED wrote:I have to go with the death of the old married couple by that prick and his manservant.
I agree this was so surreal and weird for DBZ.. a guy killing a bunch of old people?? that's freaking dark they didn't even get revived.

Also the oddly enough for me the most disturbing death for me is chi-chi's neck snap in the filler. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBmpHWISvEQ

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Re: Most disturbing death

Post by NitroEX » Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:48 am

Probably Buu's dog in all honesty since I've always had a soft spot for dogs. I could watch humanoids get ripped to shreds all day but leave the dogs alone. :cry:

If I had to go with a human death off the top of my head it would probably be Spopovich getting blown up. Not only did it look like an excruciating way to die but the thought of someone turning on you like that after being so loyal is always disturbing.

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