Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

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Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:47 pm

Basically what the title says.
As you all know, Metal Cooler in M6 is in his 4th form. Could his clones transform into his fifth form? Or could what was left of his real body transform into something resembling a fifth form?

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Re: Could Meta Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by Herms » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:54 pm

I think he probably can't, because if he could he probably would have at some point in the movie. But that's really not enough information to say one way or the other.
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Post by Captain Sauza » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:57 pm

Probably not since his true form was what took over the main computer. If he could, then I think the only difference would be in appearance and not in power.
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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:09 pm

If he could then he would have done it in the film. I think it's unlikely since I remember the computer used his head from his 4th form inside the metal star thing (the name for it escapes me at the moment).
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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by OWmyDragonBallz » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:25 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:Basically what the title says.
As you all know, Metal Cooler in M6 is in his 4th form. Could his clones transform into his fifth form? Or could what was left of his real body transform into something resembling a fifth form?
Regardless of if he can or can't, his Metal state is more powerful than his final form from the previous movie.

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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:42 pm

I like to think he could, but it wouldn't do any good. He's mechanical now and wouldn't get the boost his organic body did. The transformation would be purely aesthetic and he wouldn't actually get stronger unless his body was destroyed and then rebuilt, like had happened in the film already.
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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:59 pm

I think that if he could, he would have done so. But then again, he was already strong enough to beat the Super Saiyans, so there wasn't any need to transform. So, I don't think he can, but I wouldn't say no if DBHeroes makes him real.
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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:12 pm

Metal Coola was strong enough to one shoot Piccolo after being repair. His 5th form would likely be stronger, but I don't think he will reach Semi Perfect Cell level.
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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by Eddie » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:35 pm

The Metal Coolas you see in the movie are basically just constructs. I guess one could be made to look like Coola's transformed state, but what would the point be? It probably wouldn't gain any more power. As for the true Coola, it's just a bit of face and brain merged with a chip. There's probably not enough of him left to transform.

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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by Zephyr » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:52 pm

The transformation seems to be tied to his own biological, racial abilities.

If anything would have transformed, it would have been his head. I doubt his head alone would have been able to transform.

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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by B » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:11 pm

FIfth Form Coola couldn't touch Goku at a green Super Saiyan level. Metal Coola had almost no trouble with SS Goku a few years later plus a Super Saiyan Vegeta. Why would he bother to transform?

I don't particularly see why the metal chords/pieces of the Big Gete Star/whatever couldn't replicate the fifth form, but what would that have to do with power? It'd just be aesthetic at that point.
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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:14 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Metal Coola was strong enough to one shoot Piccolo after being repair. His 5th form would likely be stronger, but I don't think he will reach Semi Perfect Cell level.
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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by dbgtFO » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:14 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Metal Coola was strong enough to one shoot Piccolo after being repair. His 5th form would likely be stronger, but I don't think he will reach Semi Perfect Cell level.
17 one shotted Piccolo as welln
Since Dende had taken up the position of Kami in this movie, Hellspawn was probably working with the idea of Piccolo being merged with his other half in this movie.

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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:15 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Metal Coola was strong enough to one shoot Piccolo after being repair. His 5th form would likely be stronger, but I don't think he will reach Semi Perfect Cell level.
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Since Dende had taken up the position of Kami in this movie, Hellspawn was probably working with the idea of Piccolo being merged with his other half in this movie.
In-Universe, it's really the only idea that makes sense. Kami's not dead, since Piccolo isn't, and I seriously doubt he's chilling on a beach drinking margaritas. Ergo, he's fused with Piccolo.
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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by FoolsGil » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:26 pm

Logically he could. But out of all the movies of DBZ, Movie 6 makes the least amount of logic. We SAW Cooler being annihilated between a Kamehameha and the Sun in Movie 5, then sequel suddenly this Giant metal planet picked him from the death, and what, over the course of 3 years max, travel to New Namek? WHAT? Whether Metal Cooler can attain his 5th form is the least of the questions needed to be answered. But logically he could.

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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by Pantalones » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:34 am

The Metal Coolers are just creations of the Big Gete Star, they don't actually have the same physical attributes as the original Cooler. So I'd guess that they wouldn't be able to transform into a 5th form. Maybe they can use what would be their "5th form" power (if they were biological copies instead of mechanical ones) without any physical change necessary, like how some people theorize that Mecha-Freeza is able to go 100% without physically bulking up or rapidly losing energy thanks to the mechanical parts helping out.

Maybe what's left of the original Cooler might be able to transform, but I dunno, he was in pretty bad shape when the Big Gete Star found him. He's probably too integrated into the machinery to have any physical changes happening (a bit like the "Mecha-Freeza bulking up" example, but even more so.)

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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by miguelnuva1 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:38 pm

I always felt Dende was there as a plot device and Kami was off screen. M6 seemed pre android to me.

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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:22 pm

Movie 6 is likely another AU movie which can explain why Dende is in the new god of the Earth. Piccolo is likely fused with Kami in the movie and Goku in the film is likely stronger since it's a AU.
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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:30 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:I always felt Dende was there as a plot device and Kami was off screen. M6 seemed pre android to me.
Movie 6 is its own thing. There's no point in trying to tie it into any part of the franchise, except Movie 5. Since there's a divergence at some point along the timeline, it doesn't have to match up with what happens in the series. Goku and co. could all be as strong as they are in the Buu Arc (without the extra forms), and it wouldn't contradict anything.
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Re: Could Metal Cooler transform into 5th Form?

Post by miguelnuva1 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:53 pm

While the movies don't fit into the Anime or Manga timeline they usually for the most part took place around what ever the Anime was doing at the time.

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