Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Weejus » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:01 am

Only for the music placement. Since the UK broadcast didn't start until January 2013, we had the Kikuchi score the whole way through and for the most part, I didn't mind it. It wasn't until the Cell arc where I realised that Toei had basically stuck four Kikuchi songs in a loop and I wondered how they could have screwed up so badly given how many songs Kikuchi composed for DBZ.

Also, was The Lone Warrior composed by Yamamoto? That actually made it into the UK broadcast, but Super Dragon Soul and Saiyan Blood didn't.

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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:45 am

Lone Warrior was NOT composed by Yammaoto. Glady since I love that bgm.

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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Codarik » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:47 am

samuraix123 wrote:Luckily I found a place to download the remaining episodes with English and Yamamoto. :)
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Goku7 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:11 am

I have to say, I just bought parts 1-4 of kai with yamamoto and I think it is totally worth it. The music makes everything more epic, especially during when Goku fights Vegeta. Unfortunately you can't get the rest with yamamoto, but the kikuchi score for the rest of the series works IMO
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Blade » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:36 am

Weejus wrote:I realised that Toei had basically stuck four Kikuchi songs in a loop.
Probably because that's all they could afford to give him royalties for (or were tight enough to pay for) having been forced to cut their losses and ditch Yamamoto's score.

As I mentioned earlier, Yamamoto's score was a large and polished production. It certainly wasn't cheap, although in terms of salary and royalty agreements, it's probable that Yamamoto got a significantly unfavorable deal in comparison to what Kikuchi got when he was scoring the series. Kikuchi was very handsomely paid for his work his work on Dragonball.
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Naruto6583 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:21 am

Weejus wrote:Only for the music placement. Since the UK broadcast didn't start until January 2013, we had the Kikuchi score the whole way through and for the most part, I didn't mind it. It wasn't until the Cell arc where I realised that Toei had basically stuck four Kikuchi songs in a loop and I wondered how they could have screwed up so badly given how many songs Kikuchi composed for DBZ.

Also, was The Lone Warrior composed by Yamamoto? That actually made it into the UK broadcast, but Super Dragon Soul and Saiyan Blood didn't.
Weird super dragon soul isn't a yamamoto product its still there but the lyrics were stripped from the track in the kikuchi dvds
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Puto » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:18 am

Naruto6583 wrote:
Weejus wrote:Only for the music placement. Since the UK broadcast didn't start until January 2013, we had the Kikuchi score the whole way through and for the most part, I didn't mind it. It wasn't until the Cell arc where I realised that Toei had basically stuck four Kikuchi songs in a loop and I wondered how they could have screwed up so badly given how many songs Kikuchi composed for DBZ.

Also, was The Lone Warrior composed by Yamamoto? That actually made it into the UK broadcast, but Super Dragon Soul and Saiyan Blood didn't.
Weird super dragon soul isn't a yamamoto product its still there but the lyrics were stripped from the track in the kikuchi dvds
Are you sure you're not confusing with the Toonzai airing? (Toonzai airings stripped off all Japanese lyrics)
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:57 am

AgitoZ wrote:The only problem with calling the original Japanese a "dub" is that it's usually not called that because of how it was made. It's usually called a "dub" because people want to put it on the same level as any other dub.
True......but maybe the term "Japanese dub" is vaguely applicable if we're specifically talking about Kai? Since it's essentially the exact same animation, re-used, and there already was an "original" Japanese audio track recorded that they're now recording over?
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Naruto6583 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:42 pm

Maybe but I recall seeing the scene uncut and super dragon soul was vocal less
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Flame Dragon » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:43 am

I wonder if Yamamoto career is dead after what he pulled... does he still get work? Honestly i'm kinda pissed with him because i liked Kai with a new score.
Thankfully i love Kikuchi too.
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by kei17 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:46 am

Flame Dragon wrote:I wonder if Yamamoto career is dead after what he pulled... does he still get work? Honestly i'm kinda pissed with him because i liked Kai with a new score.
Thankfully i love Kikuchi too,
I directly contacted him and he said that he's refraining voluntarily from composition. He still does arrangement for Kageyama's non-DB-related songs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnVOHaeV-rc

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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by Gokuden » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:22 pm

I'm pretty sure the Hong Kong release has the Kenji Yamamoto score... But it's a pain to read chinese.
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Re: Is the Kenji Yamamoto score worth it?

Post by ShinGaijin » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:06 pm

Gokuden wrote:I'm pretty sure the Hong Kong release has the Kenji Yamamoto score... But it's a pain to read chinese.
Unfortunatly, no.It's broadcast in HD, widescreen AR, but with the Kikuchi replacement score. :(

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