What if 4Kids got DB?

[Flame Dragon]

What censoring would have happened?
What opening and soundtrack we would have?
What weird accents would plague the dub (Like Joey brooklyn accent)
What would change story-wise? (Like the Shadow Realm stuff on YGO)
Would character names stay the same? (Satoshi changed into Ash)

Do you think it would have been even worse than Funi Original Dub?
Here's an example of awful 4Kids censoring.

Let's speculate just for fun.

[KentalSSJ6]

To sum up -

They would butcher it as much as they have with every other anime they have gotten their hands on.

[JackyBoi99]

All the characters would have weird accents and the story arcs would have been completely changed. Plus the censoring, there would be no punches or physical contact.

[Makaioshin]

What censoring would have happened?
What opening and soundtrack we would have?
What weird accents would plague the dub (Like Joey brooklyn accent)
What would change story-wise? (Like the Shadow Realm stuff on YGO)
Would character names stay the same? (Satoshi changed into Ash)

Do you think it would have been even worse than Funi Original Dub?
Here's an example of awful 4Kids censoring.

Let's speculate just for fun.

Didn't we pretty much get all of that with the broadcast English dub?

[MagicBox]

There's not much to speculate. Just remember the original FUNimation/Ocean/Saban/Whatever-You-Want-To-Call-It dub. Take that, add in a bunch of those "impact stars" whenever a punch is thrown, replace nearly every female voice with Lisa Ortiz, and bam.

The only real difference would be that 4KIDS, unlike FUNi, wouldn't have wised up and given us an uncut, bilingual alternative.

[Kamiccolo9]

Instead of "the Next Dimension," we would have gotten the Shadow Realm.

[KentalSSJ6]

Instead of "the Next Dimension," we would have gotten the Shadow Realm.

And Goku would believe in The Heart of The Cards instead of gathering energy.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Years ago, the argument that got me to see where the sub fans were coming from was when someone said, "I don't like it when people hate the 4Kids dub of One Piece but defend the FUNimation dub of DBZ...what's the difference?"

I was prepared to say, "Oh, come on, they're nothing alike!" But I started to think about it and......yeah. They're right. They are alike. The FUNimation dub of DBZ was the 4Kids One Piece dub of its day. So I think we would have gotten pretty much exactly what we got from the FUNimation dub.

However......

There is one major difference between the 4Kids dub of One Piece and the FUNimation dub of DBZ, and it's this--FUNimation actually listened to their critics. As evidenced through the gradual improvement of how they treated the Dragon Ball franchise, how they released it to uncut, bilingual home video, how they recast certain roles, how the actors gradually improved, how the scripts gradually got more loyal...it's clear evidence that FUNimation actually listened. Unlike 4Kids, whose dub of One Piece actually managed to get worse as time went on, strongly suggesting that they didn't care at all about what their critics were saying.

[Flame Dragon]

The Funi dub never even scraped the bottom of the barrel as 4kids did.
Honestly the rubber knife scene is legendary for how retarded it is, it takes some imagination to actually being able to edit the footage like that.
Makes me think of all the crazy edits 4kids would do... Like Krillin using a stick to try killing Vegeta instead of a sword lol

[AnzuMazaki]

Or it could be like this:

Dragon Sphere starring 12(19 on episodes 14-34) year old Timmy Jenkins (voiced by Jason Grittith)
Holder of the enchanted Dragon Sphere (voiced by Dan Green) and his friends Fashion Queen Jennica New Orleans(Bulma, voiced by Lisa Ortiz), Brad DeAmico (Yamcha, voiced by Eric Stuart with a Brazilian accent, scars painted away in episodes 14-34), Jake Thompson (Kuririn, voiced by Veronica Taylor, now aged 10 in the episodes he's in instead of 20), Bacon Oinkers (Oolong, voiced by Wayne Grayson), Meow the Cool Cat (Puar played by John Cambell) and Old Man Wilson. (Roshi played by Jimmy Zoppi)

Due to the graphic content of the Red Ribbon Army and Piccolo Daimaoh arcs and DBZ, Dragon Sphere would have only been 34 episodes long (covering only the Pilaf and 23rd Budokai arcs) and would have skipped DBZ and GT altogether.

And all violence and sexual scenes are removed or edited.and Grandpa Steve simply went on a trip leaving the Dragon Sphere to Timmy as a new friend.and the Dragonballs are now Dragon Spheres (because balls = testicles) and could talk.

That's how I think 4kids would have dubbed Dragonball.

[Super Sonic]

Would character names stay the same? (Satoshi changed into Ash)

That was Nintendo's doing. Don't know if the original games were like in your country, but Ash was one of the default names in the original game stateside.

Would also say it would depend on whether it was treated like a Jump show or non-Jump shows. Outside the debate on whether Sonic X simply suffered a bad dub or was just a bad show, their non-Jump shows didn't get much complaints. Some of my friends said it was because the Jump shows were more popular and hence more to complain about, while some said it was because the non-Jump shows were little kid shows that no one over the age of 14 watched. And even with Jump shows, Ultimate Muscle was more popular here than it was in Japan, so they must've done something right there. Same with Sonic X, though some sum that up with lots of little kids liked it.

[El Diabeetus]

Ash is the same in all regions except France (Sacha) and Asian (usually is a transliteration Satoshi or a name that means the same thing) areas.

[Hellspawn28]

I think Kai on the CW is the closet you are going to get if 4kids got DB. It would be worst if Saban got their hands on Dragon Ball and dubbed it on their own without Funi's help.

[dbboxkaifan]

* Heavily edited
* Star Officer Black would be no more
* Bacterian would be changed somehow to less stinky (farts would be pink, for example)
* Censor Goku's fist of fury against Piccolo Daimao
And plenty more.

It's good that their never got this.

[Cure Dragon 255]

OH GOD NO.

However I will admit that the 4Kids airings of DBZKai arent as edited as they could have if they had licensed it. They didnt ruin the show like they did with One Piece. But that actually makes me EVEN MORE ANGRY.

Why you ask?

Because it shows 4kids and Toei were friggin morons when it came to marketing One Piece to kids. They COULD have made a TV-Y7 FV version of One Piece that didnt suck but chose not to.

I know the show is now in better hands with Funimation and Toonami but its still sad.

[Valerius Dover]

I'm just terrified at the thought of a having a bad synth score like Sonic X.....

I should point out that almost no names were changed in that dub, though.

[TheBlackPaladin]

OH GOD NO.

However I will admit that the 4Kids airings of DBZKai arent as edited as they could have if they had licensed it. They didnt ruin the show like they did with One Piece. But that actually makes me EVEN MORE ANGRY.

Why you ask?

Because it shows 4kids and Toei were friggin morons when it came to marketing One Piece to kids. They COULD have made a TV-Y7 FV version of One Piece that didnt suck but chose not to.

I know the show is now in better hands with Funimation and Toonami but its still sad.

A 4Kids exec more or less admitted in an interview with Anime News Network that they got One Piece as part of a package deal with other animes and didn't actually watch the show before acquiring it. It became clear to them pretty early in that it wasn't a particularly kid-friendly show, so they did the best they could with it until their rights expired, at which time they hastily gave them up (and FUNimation lunged at the opportunity to pick it up). The executive said that it was such a disaster that they were much, much, much more strict and careful from there on out when deciding which shows to get licenses for.

I don't blame 4Kids over the One Piece situation quite as much as I used to. Yes, it was an unbelievably stupid move to pick up the show without even watching it (I mean, c'mon, really?), and yes, there was no need for them to change the music (especially in the case of the BGM since the music they replaced it with was the exact same genre of music--orchestral--that the original BGM was), and yes, there was no need to endlessly insert tons of painfully unfunny jokes and puns. However, the edits were mostly the result of strict network regulations, and that extended to the writing when it came to the subject of death.

However, they never should have gotten it. An anonymous 4Kids music exec held an "Ask me anything" session on Reddit, and he admitted that there was a lot of internal celebration within 4Kids when then-CEO Al Khan left, because he was blamed for making a lot of stupid decisions, including the decision to acquire One Piece, because the show never would have worked with their intended demographic.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I read somewhere that 4Kids censored a character completely in One Piece as he dies later on in the series. If true. Wow.

One couldn't even imagine how DBZ would have been handled.

[Puto]

I read somewhere that 4Kids censored a character completely in One Piece as he dies later on in the series. If true. Wow.

One couldn't even imagine how DBZ would have been handled.

They censored out a character (Laboon) but not because he died (he's still alive even now) but because he's a giant whale full of scars.

[Cure Dragon 255]

OH GOD NO.

However I will admit that the 4Kids airings of DBZKai arent as edited as they could have if they had licensed it. They didnt ruin the show like they did with One Piece. But that actually makes me EVEN MORE ANGRY.

Why you ask?

Because it shows 4kids and Toei were friggin morons when it came to marketing One Piece to kids. They COULD have made a TV-Y7 FV version of One Piece that didnt suck but chose not to.

I know the show is now in better hands with Funimation and Toonami but its still sad.

A 4Kids exec more or less admitted in an interview with Anime News Network that they got One Piece as part of a package deal with other animes and didn't actually watch the show before acquiring it. It became clear to them pretty early in that it wasn't a particularly kid-friendly show, so they did the best they could with it until their rights expired, at which time they hastily gave them up (and FUNimation lunged at the opportunity to pick it up). The executive said that it was such a disaster that they were much, much, much more strict and careful from there on out when deciding which shows to get licenses for.

I don't blame 4Kids over the One Piece situation quite as much as I used to. Yes, it was an unbelievably stupid move to pick up the show without even watching it (I mean, c'mon, really?), and yes, there was no need for them to change the music (especially in the case of the BGM since the music they replaced it with was the exact same genre of music--orchestral--that the original BGM was), and yes, there was no need to endlessly insert tons of painfully unfunny jokes and puns. However, the edits were mostly the result of strict network regulations, and that extended to the writing when it came to the subject of death.

However, they never should have gotten it. An anonymous 4Kids music exec held an "Ask me anything" session on Reddit, and he admitted that there was a lot of internal celebration within 4Kids when then-CEO Al Khan left, because he was blamed for making a lot of stupid decisions, including the decision to acquire One Piece, because the show never would have worked with their intended demographic.

Actually, if you ignore the horrible music, the puns and jokes, the terrible acting... 4Kids One Piece wasnt THAT edited, I mean, they allowed lots of stuff lots of people ignore because of the aforementioned horrible music and so on.

I think a Kid friendly non-idiotic version of One Piece was posible. I still think its posible.