Times when a Dub > Original
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I think the Westwood dub of buu arc came close to the original.
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Outside of a few lines here or there, I don't feel any of the dubs surpassed the original version. There's a wonderful simplicity and rawness to the original version's dialogue...
However, I do think Scott McNeil is amazing as Piccolo, and as much as I love Furukawa's performance and think he totally owns that role, I just think Scott McNeil's Piccolo voice has a texture, a demonic quality to the character that juuuuuuust slightly surpasses the original performance in my humble opinion.
I guess I like the "Mr. Satan Saves Earth" re-enactment film from the 25th Tournament better in the FUNimation dub than the Japanese version or the Westwood dub, which both play totally straight if I recall.
However, I do think Scott McNeil is amazing as Piccolo, and as much as I love Furukawa's performance and think he totally owns that role, I just think Scott McNeil's Piccolo voice has a texture, a demonic quality to the character that juuuuuuust slightly surpasses the original performance in my humble opinion.
I guess I like the "Mr. Satan Saves Earth" re-enactment film from the 25th Tournament better in the FUNimation dub than the Japanese version or the Westwood dub, which both play totally straight if I recall.
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Korean dub of Trunks turning SSJ against Freeza. IT blew the Original right out of the world. When I mean perfect scream. It made Jpn look like Big Green. English Funi Z Boo arc was better than original Boo arc.
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How do you figure?TheGmGoken wrote:It made Jpn look like Big Green. English Funi Z Boo arc was better than original Boo arc.
I feel the same way.Outside of a few lines here or there, I don't feel any of the dubs surpassed the original version.
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Are you talking about the Korean Dub or English?ABED wrote:How do you figure?TheGmGoken wrote:It made Jpn look like Big Green. English Funi Z Boo arc was better than original Boo arc.
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Sorry, I mean why do you believe the JPN Buu arc isn't as good as the dub Buu arc?TheGmGoken wrote:Are you talking about the Korean Dub or English?ABED wrote:How do you figure?TheGmGoken wrote:It made Jpn look like Big Green. English Funi Z Boo arc was better than original Boo arc.
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Simple. The music was better and fitted better. Kara Edwards Goten is better than Nozawa but not Korean Goten. I like the dialog in Boo arc for Funi better than Jpn which is extremely rare.
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I'm not a fan of Edwards' Goten, it's too scratchy and woman trying to sound like a young boy. Even if I thought she was a great Goten, dub Trunks was awful, and cancels Edwards out.TheGmGoken wrote:Simple. The music was better and fitted better. Kara Edwards Goten is better than Nozawa but not Korean Goten. I like the dialog in Boo arc for Funi better than Jpn which is extremely rare.
What dialog did you feel was better? If there's a reason the dialog is as good in the dub, it's because the dub got a lot closer to the original.
Why do you think the music fits better?
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Gotenks sound so good because of Goten(Funi wise that is)ABED wrote:I'm not a fan of Edwards' Goten, it's too scratchy and woman trying to sound like a young boy. Even if I thought she was a great Goten, dub Trunks was awful, and cancels Edwards out.TheGmGoken wrote:Simple. The music was better and fitted better. Kara Edwards Goten is better than Nozawa but not Korean Goten. I like the dialog in Boo arc for Funi better than Jpn which is extremely rare.
What dialog did you feel was better? If there's a reason the dialog is as good in the dub, it's because the dub got a lot closer to the original.
Why do you think the music fits better?
All of the dialog. Thought was implied. Besides they're times when it was inaccurate and was better
Cause it fits the scenes better. Like Mystic Gohan funi theme and Goku Ssj3 theme. Lets not forget Kyle Herbert Gohan
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It's too scratchy/raspy for me. I much prefer the JPN.Gotenks sound so good because of Goten(Funi wise that is)
There are a few cues that are good, but I don't agree that the music is overall better, and even the SS3 Goku theme misses the point of the scene.
Few and far betweenBesides they're times when it was inaccurate and was better
Kyle Hebert, while an excellent Gohan, is still not as good as Nozawa, plus he's a horrible narrator.
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Well that's your opinion =p. Ms.Kara is awesome. Few and far between doesn't matter still inaccurate lines better than Jpn.ABED wrote:It's too scratchy/raspy for me. I much prefer the JPN.Gotenks sound so good because of Goten(Funi wise that is)
There are a few cues that are good, but I don't agree that the music is overall better, and even the SS3 Goku theme misses the point of the scene.
Few and far betweenBesides they're times when it was inaccurate and was better
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And I'm sure there are plenty of lines that are inaccurate and worse in the dub. I've heard Edwards is less raspy these days, which I'll be interested to hear in the inevitable dub, but she doesn't beat Nozawa, and I desperately hope they recast Buu and Trunks.Few and far between doesn't matter still inaccurate lines better than Jpn.
Oh, here's two HUGE reasons why the dub isn't better - Josh Martin and Justin Cook as Buu.
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Korean Final Flash Vegeta was also much better imho. Final Flashve!!!!!!!!!
Justin Cooks was great as Boo, especially Gotenks Boo(where Random when you need him)
Justin Cooks was great as Boo, especially Gotenks Boo(where Random when you need him)
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The guy couldn't act his way out of a paper bag. I appreciate his work behind the scenes, but not behind the mic. He sounds like he's trying to act, instead of just acting.
I'll admit that I do like how much more flowery (for lack of a better word) Freeza's dialog is in the Kai dub.
I'll admit that I do like how much more flowery (for lack of a better word) Freeza's dialog is in the Kai dub.
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I highly disagree. Of course he's not better than original Voice Actor(what this topic about) but he's great as BOO.ABED wrote:The guy couldn't act his way out of a paper bag. I appreciate his work behind the scenes, but not behind the mic. He sounds like he's trying to act, instead of just acting.
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Um, TheGmGoken is entitled to his own opinion. What voice performances you may not find enjoyable he might.
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To be fair, GM's also entitled to his. As much as it may seem that I don't respect other people's opinions, I do. I just will argue the point, sometimes vigorously.Kid Buu wrote:Um, TheGmGoken is entitled to his own opinion. What voice performances you may not find enjoyable he might.
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Anyway, my favourite dub voice is King Cold. I love the "What's a Goku" part.
Worst is Yamcha's. Only Ted Cole sounds decent as him, Furuya or bust.
Worst is Yamcha's. Only Ted Cole sounds decent as him, Furuya or bust.
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He said GMGoken is entitle to his opinion. Why you say "Also Gm opinion"ABED wrote:To be fair, GM's also entitled to his. As much as it may seem that I don't respect other people's opinions, I do. I just will argue the point, sometimes vigorously.Kid Buu wrote:Um, TheGmGoken is entitled to his own opinion. What voice performances you may not find enjoyable he might.
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Oops, misread that. Regardless the point still stands. Why does everyone seem to assume a disagreement is akin to saying you can't have a different opinion?TheGmGoken wrote:He said GMGoken is entitle to his opinion. Why you say "Also Gm opinion"ABED wrote:To be fair, GM's also entitled to his. As much as it may seem that I don't respect other people's opinions, I do. I just will argue the point, sometimes vigorously.Kid Buu wrote:Um, TheGmGoken is entitled to his own opinion. What voice performances you may not find enjoyable he might.
Are you writing in Buu talk?
Oof, you're breaking my heart. I can't stand dub King Cold. Kai's Cold is better, but still not great. And that line *Sideshow Bob shudder*Anyway, my favourite dub voice is King Cold. I love the "What's a Goku" part.
Worst is Yamcha's. Only Ted Cole sounds decent as him, Furuya or bust.
I couldn't disagree more about Yamcha. I think there are plenty worse than Yamcha. Not only is Cole more than decent as Yamcha, even Sabat is good. His Yamcha is among the more natural voices he uses.
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