Why did Toriyama chose Chichi to be Son's wife?

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Why did Toriyama chose Chichi to be Son's wife?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu May 29, 2014 7:36 pm

Suno, Bulma, Hime, Choo or Mint one of these could have been more suitable for Son as they wouldn't necessarily get angry so easily or force to do exactly what she wants, plus, she gets annoying pretty quickly. That "my son's going to become a delinquent" also got repetitive due to being used too much just 'cause Gohan liked hanging around with Piccolo that didn't mean he'd be bad influence.

And well, we only reason that Son made the promise to Chichi for marrying her is because he thought Bride was some kind of food not getting together with another being, which he never really got used to (Fighting was more of his wife than Chichi herself).

Bulma and Goku would've been a better couple, imo.

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Post by Kid Buu » Thu May 29, 2014 7:46 pm

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Re: Why did Toriyama chose Chichi to be Son's wife?

Post by Chuquita » Thu May 29, 2014 8:38 pm

Sorry for my confusion, but who were Hime, Choo, and Mint? I don't remember any of them. :?:

EDIT: After googling, Mint was the only one I was able to find info on (a girl from the lava filler with Kuririn pre-23rd tournament).

To answer the OP though, I could've seen Suno with Gokû. They seemed to get along better than he did with kid Chi-Chi.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Thu May 29, 2014 8:48 pm

Chuquita wrote:Sorry for my confusion, but who were Hime, Choo, and Mint? I don't remember any of them. :?:

EDIT: After googling, Mint was the only one I was able to find info on (a girl from the lava filler with Kuririn pre-23rd tournament).

To answer the OP though, I could've seen Suno with Gokû. They seemed to get along better than he did with kid Chi-Chi.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu May 29, 2014 8:52 pm

Most of those are anime only characters and Blooma had Yamcha and was to predictable for Goku. Now predictable isn't bad. But I like Chi Chi as Goku wife. Opposite attract,

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu May 29, 2014 9:12 pm

'Cuz she's Princess Iron Fan and much of those example of her being over the top is anime-only. She's not THAT bad in the manga.

Also, Bulma isn't that great of a girlfriend/wife pre-Cyborg arc either. Remember how she treated Yamcha?

But yeah, I do think Goku and Suno would be a better match.
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Re: Why did Toriyama chose Chichi to be Son's wife?

Post by ABED » Thu May 29, 2014 9:32 pm

I wouldn't have minded Chichi if she had stayed the character she was at the end of the 23rd Tournament. Toriyama's bad at writing romance, but I wish Chichi wasn't in love with the idea of love more so than actually loving Goku.
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Post by Retan » Thu May 29, 2014 9:39 pm

Then maybe Vegeta could of had a kid with Chi-Chi named Brat! :lol:

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Post by Vijay » Thu May 29, 2014 11:52 pm

I maybe saying these cuz I'm Asian, but Chichi's homely character (both design & characterization) fits perfectly with Goku's country bumpkin, little-to-no knowledge of family upbringing.

Bulma's hi-fi lifestyle wouldn't suit Son imo. Goku prefers living in Mount Paouzu, while Bulma's Metro city life.

I'd say Goku/Chichi relationship as Toriyama's most wiseful decision, instead of going nuts with someone like Marron (Krillin's GF)...

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Post by soulnova » Fri May 30, 2014 12:39 pm

I wouldn't pass Bulma to have hit on on Goku when he came back grown up. If Chi hadn't appeared I'm sure she would have made a move on him, just because he had become such fine man (if you know what I mean). :shifty: But I doubt nothing too serious would have come out of that, he's still too naive and simple for her. Bulma would have eventually realized they simply weren't really compatible and Goku wouldn't have cared that much either.

The only other one I would have considered as a match for Goku was Suno. She was kind, was already used to live in the countryside in the mountains (although much colder) and seemed so much more in tune with the overall "we need to stop the bad people!", "Someone needs to do something!".

If Suno would have been Goku's wife, I'm sure their children would have been allowed to train since an early age like Goku wanted. Most likely Android 8 would live with them like an uncle, also helping out with the kids. With some luck they would also be red-haired half-saiyans. xD
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Re: Why did Toriyama chose Chichi to be Son's wife?

Post by B » Fri May 30, 2014 12:55 pm

If Goku's wife just let him do whatever he wanted without complaining, she wouldn't be much of a character, I'd think.

However, I am not against Sno, or Android 8, staying in the series a little longer. When is Dragon Ball Heroes gonna give me an "Adult Sno" card?!
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Post by soulnova » Fri May 30, 2014 1:06 pm

B wrote:If Goku's wife just let him do whatever he wanted without complaining, she wouldn't be much of a character, I'd think.

However, I am not against Sno, or Android 8, staying in the series a little longer. When is Dragon Ball Heroes gonna give me an "Adult Sno" card?!
I'm not saying she wouldn't complain (with a husband like that, who wouldn't!?). But I bet she would be much more willing to let her kids fight for the sake of the earth. More like Chi and Bulma on the Buu Saga. :lol:
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Re: Why did Toriyama chose Chichi to be Son's wife?

Post by MediaFanGirl93 » Fri May 30, 2014 4:12 pm

Aww man, here comes the Chi-Chi hatin' again =/. Anyway, while I loved Suno's interactions with Kid Goku, I still perfer him with Chi-Chi. I think the reason why Goku and Chi-Chi are together is because of their personalities. Goku's a laid back nice guy and Chi-Chi's a tsundere with a fiery temper. It's sort of a yin yang thing. Yes Chi-Chi can be harsh, but she's still a loving wife and mother in my opinion.

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MediaFanGirl93 wrote:Aww man, here comes the Chi-Chi hatin' again =/. Anyway, while I loved Suno's interactions with Kid Goku, I still perfer him with Chi-Chi. I think the reason why Goku and Chi-Chi are together is because of their personalities. Goku's a laid back nice guy and Chi-Chi's a tsundere with a fiery temper. It's sort of a yin yang thing. Yes Chi-Chi can be harsh, but she's still a loving wife and mother in my opinion.
She strikes me as someone who likes being a wife, not necessarily his wife.
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MediaFanGirl93 wrote:Aww man, here comes the Chi-Chi hatin' again =/. Anyway, while I loved Suno's interactions with Kid Goku, I still perfer him with Chi-Chi. I think the reason why Goku and Chi-Chi are together is because of their personalities. Goku's a laid back nice guy and Chi-Chi's a tsundere with a fiery temper. It's sort of a yin yang thing. Yes Chi-Chi can be harsh, but she's still a loving wife and mother in my opinion.
She strikes me as someone who likes being a wife, not necessarily his wife.

Why do you think that?? I respect your opinion, but Chi-Chi's shown many times that she cares about Goku, like nursing him to health when he had the virus.

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MediaFanGirl93 wrote:Aww man, here comes the Chi-Chi hatin' again =/. Anyway, while I loved Suno's interactions with Kid Goku, I still perfer him with Chi-Chi. I think the reason why Goku and Chi-Chi are together is because of their personalities. Goku's a laid back nice guy and Chi-Chi's a tsundere with a fiery temper. It's sort of a yin yang thing. Yes Chi-Chi can be harsh, but she's still a loving wife and mother in my opinion.
She strikes me as someone who likes being a wife, not necessarily his wife.

Why do you think that?? I respect your opinion, but Chi-Chi's shown many times that she cares about Goku, like nursing him to health when he had the virus.
Yeah I agree with this post I thought Chi-Chi was a fine wife (not that way :wink: )
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Post by ABED » Fri May 30, 2014 5:50 pm

The way she talked about marriage doesn't sound like someone who is doing it because they want to be married. It comes off as someone who read what people are supposed to do from a magazine.

She's not very supportive of her husband and when he's broken after fighting Vegeta, she shows no concern for him, and she hadn't seen him in a year!

Sure she's shown concern for him, but it never comes off as "this is the love of my life." Granted, Toriyama's not a great writer of romance, but I was never fond of the pairing.
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Post by Wibbs » Fri May 30, 2014 5:55 pm

ABED wrote:The way she talked about marriage doesn't sound like someone who is doing it because they want to be married. It comes off as someone who read what people are supposed to do from a magazine.

She's not very supportive of her husband and when he's broken after fighting Vegeta, she shows no concern for him, and she hadn't seen him in a year!

Sure she's shown concern for him, but it never comes off as "this is the love of my life." Granted, Toriyama's not a great writer of romance, but I was never fond of the pairing.
I think in the DragonBall manga Chi Chi mentions reading about it from a magazine. So I guess that's where her stilted view of it comes from.
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Post by Cursed Lemon » Fri May 30, 2014 6:19 pm

Chichi may be a hardass but she's much more maternal than Bulma was for a long, long time. Bulma is much more streetwise, and putting her with naive-bordering-on-stupid Goku doesn't make much sense.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri May 30, 2014 6:34 pm

ABED wrote:when he's broken after fighting Vegeta, she shows no concern for him, and she hadn't seen him in a year!
Interesting how you seem to really like bringing up that incident at the begining of the Namek arc everytime regarding Chi-Chi's abilities as a wife yet you don't like how people judge Goku's abilities as a father on the Cell Games. :think:
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