So are they not doing redrawn scenes anymore?

[Dogasu]

I haven't seen all of the Kai episodes that have come out since April but in the ones I have managed to catch I noticed that they didn't have any redrawn scenes in them.

Are they all like this? Have budget cuts made those redrawn scenes no longer feasible?

[El Diabeetus]

More or less, that is the case. Remastering also shifted from Q-Tec to in-house at Toei. Doesn't surprise me Toei's cutting it even more cheap then the first time around. Part of me doesn't mind that being gone.

[Blade]

The reason is probably more to do with a change in production direction by the in-house department handling the Buu arc at Toei as opposed to being a budgetary one. I don't think that the traced shots were particularly expensive for QTEC to do, and judging by their quality at least, they clearly weren't something that a lot of time or quality control was invested in.

I think it's probably for the better, as the redrawn shots usually stuck out like a sore thumb, and the practice regarding their placement wasn't particularly transparent. Plenty of dirty and damaged frames from the original animation were used in Kai and not replaced, whereas the replacement shots didn't always replace hugely damaged material. The whole decision making process came across as being ad-hoc and poorly planned, and I think the best way forward is a wholesale approach of either not replacing anything or replacing every damaged or dirty frame - which is something that QTEC clearly weren't willing or able to deliver.

[Dogasu]

I wonder, though, how they're going to handle the scenes with excessive flashing. Before they'd just reanimate them to conform to post-Porygon standards but if they're not doing that anymore than what other options do they have? Dimming the scenes and removing frames, resulting in jerky and awkward-looking footage?

[VegettoEX]

Are there even any more excessively-flashing scenes? The only stuff that comes to mind for me is Goku vs. Vegeta in the Saiyan arc and Gohan vs. Cell to wrap up that arc. I'm probably forgetting stuff...

Dimming the scenes and removing frames, resulting in jerky and awkward-looking footage?

Why not exactly that? The whole thing is so cheaply-produced as it is, it sounds like the most appropriate action for them to take.

[Hujio]

The reason is probably more to do with a change in production direction by the in-house department handling the Buu arc at Toei as opposed to being a budgetary one. I don't think that the traced shots were particularly expensive for QTEC to do, and judging by their quality at least, they clearly weren't something that a lot of time or quality control was invested in.

I would argue the exact opposite, that it is due to budgetary constraints, or just to out right save money, budget be damned. And for the record, Q-TEC had nothing to do with the traced shots, as they're not an animation company. Toei Animation handled all the reanimated scenes internally at TAP, which you can read all about here.

[JulieYBM]

Yeah, not to mention that TAP had to use actual animators for the tracing. Animators they could better use for other Toei Animation works or works for other studios.

[Dogasu]

Are there even any more excessively-flashing scenes? The only stuff that comes to mind for me is Goku vs. Vegeta in the Saiyan arc and Gohan vs. Cell to wrap up that arc. I'm probably forgetting stuff...

You would be surprised by what's considered "excessively-flashing" these days. It doesn't have to be as severe as the two examples you mentioned; even something as simple as a "swift image change" is taboo now.

There's a local TV network here in Tokyo that used to air reruns of Dragon Ball GT on Tuesday nights and there would be at least one or two scenes per episode that had to be edited (dimmed down, removed frames) because of excessive flashing.

Why not exactly that? The whole thing is so cheaply-produced as it is, it sounds like the most appropriate action for them to take.

Fair enough, though I would think the results would be too awful looking even for them.

[ChibiGoku]

Are there even any more excessively-flashing scenes? The only stuff that comes to mind for me is Goku vs. Vegeta in the Saiyan arc and Gohan vs. Cell to wrap up that arc. I'm probably forgetting stuff...

You would be surprised by what's considered "excessively-flashing" these days. It doesn't have to be as severe as the two examples you mentioned; even something as simple as a "swift image change" is taboo now.

There's a local TV network here in Tokyo that used to air reruns of Dragon Ball GT on Tuesday nights and there would be at least one or two scenes per episode that had to be edited (dimmed down, removed frames) because of excessive flashing.

Here's a sad fact in regards to those edits: They sometimes end up showing up on simulcast subtitle streams, due to the fact a lot of times they're taken directly from TV masters. A show I'm watching on Crunchyroll for instance, Hero Bank, has had some frame-blending/slow down and the lighting dimmed, even on the official streams. I remember a couple of FUNimation simulcasts also getting bit by this too. Given the way the edits are done to the video, it does play hell trying to encode them properly sometimes, so I kinda wish some of the providers would send masters over before those alterations were made, but eh...

[kei17]

I've found one instance of digital touch-up though it's not an entire redrawing.




However, since they fixed only the frames in which Kibito moves his mouth and simply removed the other frames, the zooming is awkwardly jumpy that it's far more distracting than the coloring mistake in Z.

Check out how unnatural Kai looks in motion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORbuPYht8aI

I definitely choose a minor mistake in coloring over jumpy footage.

[Metalwario64]

I figured any "corrections" would be digital modifications, ala the Saban days. It's not too good anyway, because some of the pink is bleeding through his shirt. I could (and have) done better.

I think if we ever do get a redrawn shot, it would probably be the one where Boo's arms are crossed "wrong". I don't see them redrawing only part of the frame, and getting it to be consistent with the film would probably take more effort than tracing it and redrawing the arms. On the other hand, I imagine the scenes with Goku's halo missing will have it digitally drawn in.

[Puto]

I wonder, though, how they're going to handle the scenes with excessive flashing. Before they'd just reanimate them to conform to post-Porygon standards but if they're not doing that anymore than what other options do they have? Dimming the scenes and removing frames, resulting in jerky and awkward-looking footage?

This week's episode actually did have an instance of Post-Porygon blending.