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by RandomGuy96 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:44 pm
Overrated:
Goku vs Majin Vegeta: I agree with pretty much all of the reasons already mentioned. However, I would also like to add that the fight just feels pointless. While I recognize that it has a fairly major place in the plot, as this is how Buu is resurrected, the battle itself doesn't really go anywhere, and when Buu gets out, it's immediately stopped and never revisited.
Gohan vs Cell: it's just boring. Apart from a brief part of the pre-SS2 fight, the whole battle was completely one-sided, and lacked interesting choreography and techniques. This is also where characterization really starts taking it up the rear, and overall the whole climax is just awfully written. The final beam struggle did not redeem it at all, as it was either WAY too long and outright insulting towards the minor characters (anime) or super duper short and unremarkable (manga).
Goku vs Freeza: I do like this fight... I just think it's overrated. It's good, but hardly the best fight in the series, as it as often said to be. This mostly has to do with the fact that Freeza was toying with Goku for 2/3 of the fight, making most of the battle feel like a waste.
Underrated:
Z-gang vs Nappa: a desperate and brutal showdown. The sense of hopelessness as fighter after fighter is mowed down is just great, and teamwork is actually shown to be of help. While I'm disappointed by how it ended, at least Goku utterly demolishing Nappa was satisfying if nothing else.
Z-gang vs Android 20 and Android 19: while boring in terms of straight combat, I appreciate that this battle made things other than power relevant. My favorite parts of this battle were when 19 kicked Goku's ass after absorbing his Kamehameha, despite starting out with drastically inferior power, and Gero grabbing Piccolo and nearly killing him by draining the life out of him, only to be knocked away when Piccolo contacts Gohan.
Super Buu vs Gotenks: I see this fight get a lot of hate for its inconsistent tone and gags. While I can understand those complaints, I still think there's a lot to be enjoyed here even ignoring the gags. The SS3 Gotenks vs Super Buu section of the fight was relatively short, but solid, with Buu obviously being much weaker but still managing enough to keep it from being a complete stomp, and I like how it ends with the hero losing due to overestimating the advantages of pure power, and forgetting about other factors (like resilience and stamina). Both fighters also use a lot of techniques, with mixed results.
The Monkey King wrote:RandomGuy96 wrote:dbgtFO wrote:
Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
. This is also way I kinda liked the Shikamaru vs Temari fight back at the Chunnin Exams.
