Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[JulieYBM]

Much appreciation for Jacob's educational animation info. Very interesting.

I really am curious to who they'll hire for Animation Director. I'm so hungry for a fresh animation style that isn't Yamamuro's current one. Tired of his badly-proportioned faces and the overly wide bodies. I can't help thinking of that one thread where someone corrected the face proportions on one of his screenshots and I can't un-see it now. Most of his old Z stuff is fine, but I just don't care for his current art style.

I think that was Kei who did some modifications to one of the key animator's work in the Ultimate Blast cut scenes.

Yamamuro Tadayoshi's key visual art for Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods was first revealed 10 July 2012. Clearly the actual character designer for the film had been decided at that time, as well as that Gokuu would have a symbol on his dougi. Notice how Kuririn's design wound up not reflecting this early piece of promotional art, however.

[SaiyaJedi]

So the september V-jump has been released and revealed nothing new? Or are we still waiting?

The content of the initial reveal of the movie was from the September issue of V-Jump, leaking some four or five days early. There is also an announcement in Weekly Jump 2014 #34, officially released the same day (19 July), which differs in layout but not content.

The only other "new" information we've got so far is the tag line from the official website, plus confirmation of Tadayoshi Yamamuro as director (rather than animation supervisor and/or character designer). There's also some new animation from Tuesday morning's segment on Mezamashi TV, but it's probably about as relevant to the new movie as the "CG Goku standing on rocks" teaser we got around the same time two years ago.

Now Someone else says this movie is not a continuation of battle of gods, can someone please tell me if it is or not i dont know who to believe, if a kanzenshuu member or staff can tell me.

We have translated Toriyama's quote on the main site, which tells you what you need to know.

(In short, yes: it's a "continuation" of Battle of Gods.)

[Retan]

Maybe Toriyama was the one who wanted Yamamuro to direct, maybe he likes how he does fight scenes or something (Not that the other don't do great/better fight scenes) but wasn't Yamamuro the one who did martial arts for a while (not that he's the only on, or anything)

[kidtrunksssj]

Now Someone else says this movie is not a continuation of battle of gods, can someone please tell me if it is or not i dont know who to believe, if a kanzenshuu member or staff can tell me.

We have translated Toriyama's quote on the main site, which tells you what you need to know.

(In short, yes: it's a "continuation" of Battle of Gods.)

Thank you so much for commenting and translating you guys are awesome, and I guess its a good thing its a continuation, I hope vegeta gets a time to shine, too much goku is not really a good thing at all.

[Chuquita]

Much appreciation for Jacob's educational animation info. Very interesting.

I really am curious to who they'll hire for Animation Director. I'm so hungry for a fresh animation style that isn't Yamamuro's current one. Tired of his badly-proportioned faces and the overly wide bodies. I can't help thinking of that one thread where someone corrected the face proportions on one of his screenshots and I can't un-see it now. Most of his old Z stuff is fine, but I just don't care for his current art style.

I think that was Kei who did some modifications to one of the key animator's work in the Ultimate Blast cut scenes.

Yamamuro Tadayoshi's key visual art for Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods was first revealed 10 July 2012. Clearly the actual character designer for the film had been decided at that time, as well as that Gokuu would have a symbol on his dougi. Notice how Kuririn's design wound up not reflecting this early piece of promotional art, however.

Those edits were really interesting in that they so clearly revealed just how off Yamamuro's faces have gotten. I don't recall what thread it was in, unfortunately.

So they may not have decided on the Animation Director yet for db15 given that unlike BOG, it hasn't been mentioned yet?

[Retan]

I alway thought he did that on purpose, so When Goku went SSJG it wouldn't just look like Goku with red hair, but show he was now in a godly body as well.

[JulieYBM]

Maybe Toriyama was the one who wanted Yamamuro to direct, maybe he likes how he does fight scenes or something (Not that the other don't do great/better fight scenes) but wasn't Yamamuro the one who did martial arts for a while (not that he's the only on, or anything)

That is not impossible, given the two should have a rapport that goes back to at least 1993 where Toriyama helped in revising Broli's character designs.

Personally, I would love for Hatano Morio to direct Dragon Ball. His storyboard for Disk Wars: Avengers Episode #9 was really good. What he and Shida Naotoshi did for that episode was some truly evocative layouts. Captain America looks very powerful and commanding as he awaits Iron Man to toss King Cobra his way. Although Shida Naotoshi does have a reputation for doing as he likes with his layouts and ignoring the storyboard a bit, Hatano's strong sense of powerful layouts permeates throughout the other cuts in his episodes, too. Hatano also has connections with talented animators like Umakoshi Yoshihiko.

[Chuquita]

I would really enjoy some Umakoshi. I hadn't even entertained the thought that he'd get to do some. I really like his HCPC work. It'd be nice.

[Retan]

Hey JocobYBM how do you know what these animators likes and dislikes are?

[kidtrunksssj]

http://prntscr.com/45dvyx
Is That True?

[Retan]

SSJG Goku has red hair and is much thinner in BoG, but in some ways yes it's true, but then again so is his base form now.

[JulieYBM]

Hey JocobYBM how do you know what these animators likes and dislikes are?

Mostly by their actions. I don't think I've ever specifically seen an animator outright say they only want to do a certain sort of work, aside from maybe Iwane Masa'aki who asked OLM to allow him to do the key animation for entire episodes of Pocket Monster alone.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I just realized what's been nagging at me during all this discussion on whether or not it's a good thing that Yamamuro is directing or not - it's all been about the potential art quality of the movie. Am I mistaken to assume that the director of the film would also be in charge of directing the voice-over sessions, or is it just assumed that the cast is so stellar and so well-in-touch with these characters that the director on that side of things is almost not even a factor at this point?

[JulieYBM]

I just realized what's been nagging at me during all this discussion on whether or not it's a good thing that Yamamuro is directing or not - it's all been about the potential art quality of the movie. Am I mistaken to assume that the director of the film would also be in charge of directing the voice-over sessions, or is it just assumed that the cast is so stellar and so well-in-touch with these characters that the director on that side of things is almost not even a factor at this point?

It is tradition for the episode or film director to oversee the actors for Toei Animation works. Normally the audio director does so on cartoons for other studios, but Toei Animation is a little different. Hosoda Masahiro spoke about this during the production for the previous film:

As 17 years had passed since Dragon Ball Z‘s broadcast, the voice-actors who played the main characters had all become “elder statesman”-class. Everyone was incredibly busy, so I’m afraid we weren’t able to record with everyone together [at once], but thanks to the forceful initial performance of Goku by Masako Nozawa-san, who plays Son Goku, Gohan, and Goten, the other cast members worked hard, as though they were carried along by the energy of the chairwoman (Nozawa-san)’s recording. As for Ryō Horikawa-san, who plays Vegeta, in the scene where Vegeta lets out a long scream, I was overwhelmed at how, from the first time, he shouted for about twice as long as we had imagined. As it had been a long time for the other voice-actors as well, the energy level in the studio was incredibly high. (laughs) I felt that there would be no problems with the voices, so from the recording, I came to see that, once we firmed up the character of enemies Beerus and Whis, and also worked hard on the art, we’d succeed with it.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I'm all for having new/dynamic/exciting/GOOD animation, but I'm here for the story and characters more than anything. So if we end up with sub-par animation due to Yamamuro, I'll be disappointed, but I won't mind too much. With Toriyama at the helm and even Torishima praising him, I'm thinking that I don't really need to worry much about the part that's most important to me. So, I think my biggest hope for this movie right now is just that we don't have to deal with another Special Edition situation. While it was fun and exciting to learn we were getting new content for it when it came to television, I'd really like this film to have that longer runtime from the start and be complete when they release it to theaters this time around.

[Bullza]

The movie being "Utterly funny" worries me, DBZ was always at it's worst when it tried to be funny. Battle of Gods had a lot of humour and it was the worst part of the movie because it wasn't funny at all, bringing Pilaf who was always a terrible character to begin and then to make them kids...why? Nobody cares about Pilaf and then they completely butcher Vegeta by making him sing and act like an idiot too, it needs to do without all that.

Everything else sounds good though.

[JulieYBM]

The movie being "Utterly funny" worries me, DBZ was always at it's worst when it tried to be funny. Battle of Gods had a lot of humour and it was the worst part of the movie because it wasn't funny at all, bringing Pilaf who was always a terrible character to begin and then to make them kids...why? Nobody cares about Pilaf and then they completely butcher Vegeta by making him sing and act like an idiot too, it needs to do without all that.

I would like charts and pie graphs of thoroughly collected research and polling results before I believe 'nobody' cares about Pilaf. I like him, he's a hilarious and hapless idiot. Bringing the Pilaf gang back to the forefront as both comic relief and potentially new friends for the gang was a nice callback and chance to change-up character dynamics. If there is one thing Toriyama has always excelled at it is character dynamics.

I'm all for having new/dynamic/exciting/GOOD animation, but I'm here for the story and characters more than anything. So if we end up with sub-par animation due to Yamamuro, I'll be disappointed, but I won't mind too much. With Toriyama at the helm and even Torishima praising him, I'm thinking that I don't really need to worry much about the part that's most important to me. So, I think my biggest hope for this movie right now is just that we don't have to deal with another Special Edition situation. While it was fun and exciting to learn we were getting new content for it when it came to television, I'd really like this film to have that longer runtime from the start and be complete when they release it to theaters this time around.

The script is already just about guaranteed to be great, but that doesn't mean the manner in which the story is told gets a pass. Film is not merely the story, it is the manner in which the story is told. A script is merely the almonds in the bridge mix. There is no 'i' in team, after all.

[MagicBox]

The movie being "Utterly funny" worries me, DBZ was always at it's worst when it tried to be funny.

As in, "nearly all the time?" With the exception of maybe the Artificial Humans arc, humor has always been a key ingredient in Dragon Ball. It's more subtle in the anime-only stuff (in which one could argue that the writers don't understand the characters quite as well), but the jokes are still there. To recycle a jokey line from one of my previous posts, "Dragon Ball is about puff-puffs and pat-pats and dumb gags and you whippersnappers need to show some gosh darn respect."

I'm honestly not sure what you were expecting. If you're looking for full-on drama, then I honestly think you're looking for another franchise.

[KentalSSJ6]

The movie being "Utterly funny" worries me, DBZ was always at it's worst when it tried to be funny. Battle of Gods had a lot of humour and it was the worst part of the movie because it wasn't funny at all, bringing Pilaf who was always a terrible character to begin and then to make them kids...why? Nobody cares about Pilaf and then they completely butcher Vegeta by making him sing and act like an idiot too, it needs to do without all that.

Everything else sounds good though.

Yeah..how bout you don't speak for others ok? I thoroughly enjoyed Battle of God's comedic aspects. In fact, I wouldn't even mind if it was nothing but that. We got a good deal of character interaction and development, more so than any other film in the franchise to date arguably. I'll take that over more fights any day.

[TheGmGoken]

The movie being "Utterly funny" worries me, DBZ was always at it's worst when it tried to be funny. Battle of Gods had a lot of humour and it was the worst part of the movie because it wasn't funny at all, bringing Pilaf who was always a terrible character to begin and then to make them kids...why? Nobody cares about Pilaf and then they completely butcher Vegeta by making him sing and act like an idiot too, it needs to do without all that.

Everything else sounds good though.

Yeah..how bout you don't speak for others ok? I thoroughly enjoyed Battle of God's comedic aspects. In fact, I wouldn't even mind if it was nothing but that. We got a good deal of character interaction and development, more so than any other film in the franchise to date arguably. I'll take that over more fights any day.

To be fair I'm sure he was voicing his opinion in an aggressive tone. Though I agree that BoG humor was just awful. I give credit for character interaction(Though Path To Power, Yo Son, and Broly Second Coming had close to the same, the same, or more interaction than BoG) but the humor was bad. Though I can't agree on Bullza's opinion on Pirafu. I love that guy(Though he ranks very low on favorite characters)